Aragorn is awesome, just like I imagined him. I like all the details, the scenery, the carnage...it's very faithfull to the book. On the other hand, Boromir doesn't look right, he has brown hair??? But this pic's so well done and the fact that the emotions felt from reading the book are present there are more than enough to give it a 5!
Comment by Soul.pud - July 5, 2001 @ 2:58 PM - Rated a 5
Aragorn is awesome, just like I imagined him. I like all the details, the scenery, the carnage...it's very faithfull to the book. On the other hand, Boromir doesn't look right, he has brown hair??? But this pic's so well done and the fact that the emotions felt from reading the book are present there are more than enough to give it a 5!
Comment by Soul.pud - July 5, 2001 @ 2:58 PM - Rated a 5
Grody! Good pic tho!
Comment by ~Galadriel_Daughter~ - April 30, 2002 @ 10:49 AM - Rated a 4
Grody! Good pic tho!
Comment by ~Galadriel_Daughter~ - April 30, 2002 @ 10:49 AM - Rated a 4
exactly! Nasmith is the best Tolkien Illistrator.
That is all.
Comment by frogbart - April 30, 2002 @ 11:33 AM - Rated a 5
exactly! Nasmith is the best Tolkien Illistrator.
That is all.
Comment by frogbart - April 30, 2002 @ 11:33 AM - Rated a 5
Nice pic in many ways, but Borormir doesn't look right. His face has no nobility about it. Also, he appears a bit portly. If he had is hair tonsured (bowl shaved on top) he could pass as a friar but I don't about heir to the Steward of Gondor.
Comment by Gastbona - April 30, 2002 @ 11:36 AM - Rated a 3
Nice pic in many ways, but Borormir doesn't look right. His face has no nobility about it. Also, he appears a bit portly. If he had is hair tonsured (bowl shaved on top) he could pass as a friar but I don't about heir to the Steward of Gondor.
Comment by Gastbona - April 30, 2002 @ 11:36 AM - Rated a 3
I love it Ted Nasmith is my favorite. As always, his backgrounds are better than his people, but I love this one, and they are about as close to equal as I can imagine. I dont agree with Gastbona, I think Boromir looks great. The sentiment in this scene is wonderful. Though Gastbona, I do like that you back up your rating with facts and tell why you don't like it. I hate it when people just put a 2 or something and don't say anything.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 1:06 PM - Rated a 5
I love it Ted Nasmith is my favorite. As always, his backgrounds are better than his people, but I love this one, and they are about as close to equal as I can imagine. I dont agree with Gastbona, I think Boromir looks great. The sentiment in this scene is wonderful. Though Gastbona, I do like that you back up your rating with facts and tell why you don't like it. I hate it when people just put a 2 or something and don't say anything.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 1:06 PM - Rated a 5
Its a good overall picture, but something is just not right. Didn't boromir have....um...3 arrows? (Correct me if I am wrong.) I wish I could give it a better rating, but something is just not right.
Comment by _0o_shadowfax_o0_ - April 30, 2002 @ 1:29 PM - Rated a 3
Its a good overall picture, but something is just not right. Didn't boromir have....um...3 arrows? (Correct me if I am wrong.) I wish I could give it a better rating, but something is just not right.
Comment by _0o_shadowfax_o0_ - April 30, 2002 @ 1:29 PM - Rated a 3
that is good....nice detail....i dont like boromir to much though....he looks to pale....he was all noble.....yeah boromir did get hit by three arrows....not as many as the pic
Comment by elf_ranger - April 30, 2002 @ 2:01 PM - Rated a 4
that is good....nice detail....i dont like boromir to much though....he looks to pale....he was all noble.....yeah boromir did get hit by three arrows....not as many as the pic
Comment by elf_ranger - April 30, 2002 @ 2:01 PM - Rated a 4
sorry but (although it is butifull) it is not as tolkien wrote, and therefor cant' be rated higher than 3
Comment by hobbitchild - April 30, 2002 @ 2:11 PM - Rated a 3
sorry but (although it is butifull) it is not as tolkien wrote, and therefor cant' be rated higher than 3
Comment by hobbitchild - April 30, 2002 @ 2:11 PM - Rated a 3
Great detail. I'm sorry, but I don't like Boromir. Neither Aragorn nor Boromir have beards! What's up w/ that? I truly am grateful for the casting of Sean Bean for the part of Boromir. I would talk more, but I g2g so bye! Oh yeah before I go I have just one question: why wasn't this in the gallery?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - April 30, 2002 @ 2:37 PM - Rated a 4
Great detail. I'm sorry, but I don't like Boromir. Neither Aragorn nor Boromir have beards! What's up w/ that? I truly am grateful for the casting of Sean Bean for the part of Boromir. I would talk more, but I g2g so bye! Oh yeah before I go I have just one question: why wasn't this in the gallery?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - April 30, 2002 @ 2:37 PM - Rated a 4
Go read the book again guys. Boromir got hit with 3 arrows in the movie, not the book. In the book I believe it was something like "numerous arrows". I agree though, Boromir looks more like a friar than a Steward of Gondor. I do like the way he did Aragorn though... he looks old, but not OLD, know what I mean?
Comment by Rayowynn - April 30, 2002 @ 3:58 PM - Rated a 3
Go read the book again guys. Boromir got hit with 3 arrows in the movie, not the book. In the book I believe it was something like "numerous arrows". I agree though, Boromir looks more like a friar than a Steward of Gondor. I do like the way he did Aragorn though... he looks old, but not OLD, know what I mean?
Comment by Rayowynn - April 30, 2002 @ 3:58 PM - Rated a 3
boromir isnt just right.all the other things are great
Comment by nondas - April 30, 2002 @ 4:32 PM - Rated a 4
boromir isnt just right.all the other things are great
Comment by nondas - April 30, 2002 @ 4:32 PM - Rated a 4
It said Boromir was stuck full of arrows in the book, in the movie he just had three and my personal opinion he looked like a human pincushion. And Boromir WOULD be pale if he died. I mean, like, have any of you seen The Patriot? Like Thomas when he died was all pale, it's what happens when you lose a lot of blood. What do ya'll mean by not as Tolkien wrote? I am not trying to provoke anger, I am just curious.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 5:07 PM
It said Boromir was stuck full of arrows in the book, in the movie he just had three and my personal opinion he looked like a human pincushion. And Boromir WOULD be pale if he died. I mean, like, have any of you seen The Patriot? Like Thomas when he died was all pale, it's what happens when you lose a lot of blood. What do ya'll mean by not as Tolkien wrote? I am not trying to provoke anger, I am just curious.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 5:07 PM
personaly, I Love the background, it's really realistic!
but Aragorn looks old,I mean, how old is Arogorn exactly? and Boromir looks Evil...
it's kinda odd
Comment by willow_moon - April 30, 2002 @ 5:52 PM - Rated a 3
personaly, I Love the background, it's really realistic!
but Aragorn looks old,I mean, how old is Arogorn exactly? and Boromir looks Evil...
it's kinda odd
Comment by willow_moon - April 30, 2002 @ 5:52 PM - Rated a 3
But Boromir looks a bit odd.
Comment by snowlass - April 30, 2002 @ 9:00 PM - Rated a 3
But Boromir looks a bit odd.
Comment by snowlass - April 30, 2002 @ 9:00 PM - Rated a 3
I agree that Boromir doesn't look right. He had been hit by numerous arrows in the book, and 3 in the movie. It looks numerous in the picture to me. I counted 7, and probably some had fallen off. Well, people define "numerous" differently. Overall, I like Nasmith's arts. I've seen several of them.
Comment by fishy071 - May 1, 2002 @ 2:04 AM - Rated a 4
I agree that Boromir doesn't look right. He had been hit by numerous arrows in the book, and 3 in the movie. It looks numerous in the picture to me. I counted 7, and probably some had fallen off. Well, people define "numerous" differently. Overall, I like Nasmith's arts. I've seen several of them.
Comment by fishy071 - May 1, 2002 @ 2:04 AM - Rated a 4
As for the Boromir bit, I think he looks noble, just like he's been dying of some disease of a time. If you take his face, imagine it colored in and fleshened out, it works.
Aragorn is a descendent of Numenor, so his life is much longer than that of normal men. But he's 87 years old at the time of the book, and it's not hard to believe that he's at the point where he might be going a little grey. Some people start going grey in their 20's.
Comment by §ol - May 1, 2002 @ 2:57 AM - Rated a 4
As for the Boromir bit, I think he looks noble, just like he's been dying of some disease of a time. If you take his face, imagine it colored in and fleshened out, it works.
Aragorn is a descendent of Numenor, so his life is much longer than that of normal men. But he's 87 years old at the time of the book, and it's not hard to believe that he's at the point where he might be going a little grey. Some people start going grey in their 20's.
Comment by §ol - May 1, 2002 @ 2:57 AM - Rated a 4
(I know it's probably because he's dying but it's something else) but it's nice anyway
Comment by Anariel - May 1, 2002 @ 5:03 AM - Rated a 3
(I know it's probably because he's dying but it's something else) but it's nice anyway
Comment by Anariel - May 1, 2002 @ 5:03 AM - Rated a 3
it's very good. Ted Nasmith and John Howe are my favourite Tolkien illustrators, and I'm angry when I see that a Legolas pic is much higher rated then Ted Nasmith's painting
Comment by myama - May 1, 2002 @ 5:24 AM - Rated a 5
it's very good. Ted Nasmith and John Howe are my favourite Tolkien illustrators, and I'm angry when I see that a Legolas pic is much higher rated then Ted Nasmith's painting
Comment by myama - May 1, 2002 @ 5:24 AM - Rated a 5
You can really feel the emotion on the picture. I'm starting to cry now
Comment by habitforminghobbit - May 1, 2002 @ 6:19 AM - Rated a 5
You can really feel the emotion on the picture. I'm starting to cry now
Comment by habitforminghobbit - May 1, 2002 @ 6:19 AM - Rated a 5
Hay varios detalles de gran importancia que restan credibilidad a esta representación de Aragorn y Boromir. Para empezar, en el libro Aragorn es descrito con el pelo más largo y con ropa oscura y gastada por su uso continuado. Esto es distinto en la imágen de Ted Nasmith. Además, Boromir parece excesivamente viejo y pálido en el dibujo, sin dar ese aspecto de granadeza, nobleza y fortaleza que siempre tuvo. Independientemente de esto, yo personalmente no me imaginaba a estos dos personajes así, ni por asomo. (Otra cosilla: ¿Desde cuando los orcos son de color verde-planta?) De todos modos, es un buen trabajo y en cierto modo transmite la sensación de el libro. ¡Sigue currándotelo, Ted, pero si fueses más fiel a los escritos de Tolkien estaría mucho mejor!
Comment by TheMarquis - May 1, 2002 @ 6:42 AM - Rated a 2
Hay varios detalles de gran importancia que restan credibilidad a esta representación de Aragorn y Boromir. Para empezar, en el libro Aragorn es descrito con el pelo más largo y con ropa oscura y gastada por su uso continuado. Esto es distinto en la imágen de Ted Nasmith. Además, Boromir parece excesivamente viejo y pálido en el dibujo, sin dar ese aspecto de granadeza, nobleza y fortaleza que siempre tuvo. Independientemente de esto, yo personalmente no me imaginaba a estos dos personajes así, ni por asomo. (Otra cosilla: ¿Desde cuando los orcos son de color verde-planta?) De todos modos, es un buen trabajo y en cierto modo transmite la sensación de el libro. ¡Sigue currándotelo, Ted, pero si fueses más fiel a los escritos de Tolkien estaría mucho mejor!
Comment by TheMarquis - May 1, 2002 @ 6:42 AM - Rated a 2
87 yrs old?
wow...I didn't remember
thanx!
Comment by willow_moon - May 1, 2002 @ 3:04 PM
87 yrs old?
wow...I didn't remember
thanx!
Comment by willow_moon - May 1, 2002 @ 3:04 PM
No offense, I just don't know that language (Spanish is my guess :)) - yet. Could someone that DOES know what he said please translate?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 3:39 PM
No offense, I just don't know that language (Spanish is my guess :)) - yet. Could someone that DOES know what he said please translate?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 3:39 PM
Ok he didnt look like a human pin cushion. And no he wouldn't be pale because he had pride so even after he died he looked great. I mean he's warrior for god's sake. I really dont think he's 87. I thought he was like 60.
Comment by eowyn_rocks - May 1, 2002 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 3
Ok he didnt look like a human pin cushion. And no he wouldn't be pale because he had pride so even after he died he looked great. I mean he's warrior for god's sake. I really dont think he's 87. I thought he was like 60.
Comment by eowyn_rocks - May 1, 2002 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 3
I love the detail all around them, it's stunning, but.... the actual boromir and aragorn. Ugh. not to be mean, it's an awesome job its just...... PoOr ArWeN! Would you want a face like that kissing you? I didn't think so... :P that's all. Wonderful detail around thou!
Comment by LovelyArwenDrummer - May 1, 2002 @ 6:28 PM - Rated a 4
I love the detail all around them, it's stunning, but.... the actual boromir and aragorn. Ugh. not to be mean, it's an awesome job its just...... PoOr ArWeN! Would you want a face like that kissing you? I didn't think so... :P that's all. Wonderful detail around thou!
Comment by LovelyArwenDrummer - May 1, 2002 @ 6:28 PM - Rated a 4
I like it... Ted Nasmith is awesome I think Boromir looks a little old, but other than that...
Comment by luthienelflover - May 1, 2002 @ 6:38 PM - Rated a 4
I like it... Ted Nasmith is awesome I think Boromir looks a little old, but other than that...
Comment by luthienelflover - May 1, 2002 @ 6:38 PM - Rated a 4
Ok sorreeee. I I wasnt like making an attack on the movie, I love the movie (tho I don't really like Boromir to begin with) and have seen it ten times. But don't tell me to shut up. Like I said, I wasn't trying to provoke anger. But please don't push me to say whats in my head, I just got back from a five hour rehearsal, with a show opening in a week and I don't need any crap. I am going to take your advice and shut up now before I let my anger get the best of me. But what does pride have to do with the physical side of peeps that makes them get pale when their dead. Blood Loss Hello!!!!!!!! And the blood of Numenor didn't run true in him to begin with, he was almost one of lesser men. And she said ARAGORN was 87, not Boromir. I don't remember Boromir's age, but I know he's below fifty, cause he's younger than Frodo.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 6:48 PM
Ok sorreeee. I I wasnt like making an attack on the movie, I love the movie (tho I don't really like Boromir to begin with) and have seen it ten times. But don't tell me to shut up. Like I said, I wasn't trying to provoke anger. But please don't push me to say whats in my head, I just got back from a five hour rehearsal, with a show opening in a week and I don't need any crap. I am going to take your advice and shut up now before I let my anger get the best of me. But what does pride have to do with the physical side of peeps that makes them get pale when their dead. Blood Loss Hello!!!!!!!! And the blood of Numenor didn't run true in him to begin with, he was almost one of lesser men. And she said ARAGORN was 87, not Boromir. I don't remember Boromir's age, but I know he's below fifty, cause he's younger than Frodo.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 6:48 PM
no offense.
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 8:12 PM
no offense.
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 8:12 PM
I feel better now, I didn't say I was mad or angry, just incrediabally stressed. People shouldn't push performers in May, too much pressure as it is.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 8:26 PM
I feel better now, I didn't say I was mad or angry, just incrediabally stressed. People shouldn't push performers in May, too much pressure as it is.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 8:26 PM
I agree, LovelyArwenDrummer. Aragorn's face looks a little too red, but the picture portrays emotion, as you mentioned, habitforminghobbit. Nasmith is a good artist and did a good job.
Eowyn_rocks, gol and Daughterofpaladin, according to my calculations from the timeline in the Appendix, Aragorn is either 87or 88, and Boromir is either 40 or 41. I understand that performance is a lot of stress, and when you said "human pincushion," I knew you didn't mean it literally. You were probably just trying to say that Boromir was pierced by many arrows.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:03 AM
I agree, LovelyArwenDrummer. Aragorn's face looks a little too red, but the picture portrays emotion, as you mentioned, habitforminghobbit. Nasmith is a good artist and did a good job.
Eowyn_rocks, gol and Daughterofpaladin, according to my calculations from the timeline in the Appendix, Aragorn is either 87or 88, and Boromir is either 40 or 41. I understand that performance is a lot of stress, and when you said "human pincushion," I knew you didn't mean it literally. You were probably just trying to say that Boromir was pierced by many arrows.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:03 AM
TheMarquis' comments are in Spanish, and the title roughly translates to "I don't think all is right." I am taking Spanish right now, and still don't know very much, so I can't quite translate the comments. However, I'll give you the general idea.
The Marquis is saying that there are traits in the picture that do not represent Aragorn and Boromir. In the book, Aragorn had longer hair, and Boromir had a more grand, noble, and strong look. The orcs also appear green. This picture is Nasmith's interpretation, and does not represent what he imagined. He likes Tolkien's descriptions better.
I hope I'm right. Anyone who knows Spanish is free to correct me.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:14 AM
TheMarquis' comments are in Spanish, and the title roughly translates to "I don't think all is right." I am taking Spanish right now, and still don't know very much, so I can't quite translate the comments. However, I'll give you the general idea.
The Marquis is saying that there are traits in the picture that do not represent Aragorn and Boromir. In the book, Aragorn had longer hair, and Boromir had a more grand, noble, and strong look. The orcs also appear green. This picture is Nasmith's interpretation, and does not represent what he imagined. He likes Tolkien's descriptions better.
I hope I'm right. Anyone who knows Spanish is free to correct me.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:14 AM
I agree with Frogbart.. Ted Nasmith i the greatest Tolkien Ilustrater
Comment by Palladiniel - May 2, 2002 @ 10:17 AM - Rated a 5
I agree with Frogbart.. Ted Nasmith i the greatest Tolkien Ilustrater
Comment by Palladiniel - May 2, 2002 @ 10:17 AM - Rated a 5
As allways!!!! He can make a good interpretation of Tolkien's stories
Comment by fasol - May 2, 2002 @ 3:22 PM - Rated a 5
As allways!!!! He can make a good interpretation of Tolkien's stories
Comment by fasol - May 2, 2002 @ 3:22 PM - Rated a 5
I like the way Boromir's mant circles around his thigh...very Victorian maiden in polite disarray, with a jutted-out chin.
I feel that the figures of Aragorn and Boromir aren't noble enough, although the background is great.
Comment by Green-elf - May 2, 2002 @ 7:31 PM - Rated a 2
I like the way Boromir's mant circles around his thigh...very Victorian maiden in polite disarray, with a jutted-out chin.
I feel that the figures of Aragorn and Boromir aren't noble enough, although the background is great.
Comment by Green-elf - May 2, 2002 @ 7:31 PM - Rated a 2
First a little clarification
1. Boromir has brown hair in the book. So the colour is right.
2. Boromir got hit by many more arrows than just 3. I kind of like it that way, as it makes him seem more heroic.
3. I don't know the exact age of Aragorn but it's somewhere around the 90. Remember he is a numenorean. They live longer.
I really like the background very much. It's almost as good as Alan Lee. I also like the orcs surrounding Boromir. They are truly ugly in a beautiful way..hehe! But I must agree with the majority that Aragorn and Boromir look not quite like I had imagined them. I can't tell what it is but I don't like it.
Comment by Quick-Silver - May 3, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 3
First a little clarification
1. Boromir has brown hair in the book. So the colour is right.
2. Boromir got hit by many more arrows than just 3. I kind of like it that way, as it makes him seem more heroic.
3. I don't know the exact age of Aragorn but it's somewhere around the 90. Remember he is a numenorean. They live longer.
I really like the background very much. It's almost as good as Alan Lee. I also like the orcs surrounding Boromir. They are truly ugly in a beautiful way..hehe! But I must agree with the majority that Aragorn and Boromir look not quite like I had imagined them. I can't tell what it is but I don't like it.
Comment by Quick-Silver - May 3, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 3
He has really captured the sadness of the moment in this pic with the orcs and the Horn that's split in two...
Comment by TuorSonOfHuor - May 3, 2002 @ 9:01 AM - Rated a 5
He has really captured the sadness of the moment in this pic with the orcs and the Horn that's split in two...
Comment by TuorSonOfHuor - May 3, 2002 @ 9:01 AM - Rated a 5
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:41 AM - Rated a 4
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:41 AM - Rated a 4
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:43 AM
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:43 AM
Yep, this is a nice pic, everything looks right, except for Aragorns hair, it seems to be a little short to me.
And yep, Aragorn is 87 years old, but because he is to be 209 years old, his face doesn`t looks to old to me. He is very close to becoming 89, that is on march the 1st, and the event of the picture takes place on february 26th. In fact, if you want to know, Aragorn spends his birthday meeting Gandalf The White and horseriding with him. I can`t wich for a better one!
A 4
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 3, 2002 @ 10:47 AM - Rated a 4
Yep, this is a nice pic, everything looks right, except for Aragorns hair, it seems to be a little short to me.
And yep, Aragorn is 87 years old, but because he is to be 209 years old, his face doesn`t looks to old to me. He is very close to becoming 89, that is on march the 1st, and the event of the picture takes place on february 26th. In fact, if you want to know, Aragorn spends his birthday meeting Gandalf The White and horseriding with him. I can`t wich for a better one!
A 4
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 3, 2002 @ 10:47 AM - Rated a 4
I think they were talking about the movie. In the movie Boromir gets three arrows in him, and they were so big that IN MY OPINION NOT, SAYING THAT IT WAS HORRIBLE OR INSULTING THE MOVIE they made him look like a human pincushion. Once more, not trying to provoke anger.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 3, 2002 @ 12:57 PM
I think they were talking about the movie. In the movie Boromir gets three arrows in him, and they were so big that IN MY OPINION NOT, SAYING THAT IT WAS HORRIBLE OR INSULTING THE MOVIE they made him look like a human pincushion. Once more, not trying to provoke anger.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 3, 2002 @ 12:57 PM
The purpose of a piece of art is to evoke a reaction or feeling. I think Nasmith is trying to capture the feeling of love and respect for a fallen comrade who had paid the ultimate price-his life. The details that help create the feeling are included:the cloven horn, many dead surrounding Boromir,numerous arrows in his body and the look on Aragorn's face. Details such as length of hair,color of skin and the like can be more open to the artist's intrepretation. Of course the characters won't look like we've imagined them, that picture is in our mind, not the artist's. Nasmith has done a masterful job conveying the feelings of Aragorn for Boromir. Tolkien would have been very pleased.
Comment by melianndoriath - May 3, 2002 @ 4:25 PM - Rated a 5
The purpose of a piece of art is to evoke a reaction or feeling. I think Nasmith is trying to capture the feeling of love and respect for a fallen comrade who had paid the ultimate price-his life. The details that help create the feeling are included:the cloven horn, many dead surrounding Boromir,numerous arrows in his body and the look on Aragorn's face. Details such as length of hair,color of skin and the like can be more open to the artist's intrepretation. Of course the characters won't look like we've imagined them, that picture is in our mind, not the artist's. Nasmith has done a masterful job conveying the feelings of Aragorn for Boromir. Tolkien would have been very pleased.
Comment by melianndoriath - May 3, 2002 @ 4:25 PM - Rated a 5
tears are forming in my eyes... but great pic nonetheless.
Comment by Thinuialiel - May 3, 2002 @ 5:25 PM - Rated a 4
tears are forming in my eyes... but great pic nonetheless.
Comment by Thinuialiel - May 3, 2002 @ 5:25 PM - Rated a 4
This is insanely good! I love the realism. It's a vivid painting of what happened.
IMHO, much better than Peter Jackson's portrayl.
Comment by Mædhros - May 3, 2002 @ 10:10 PM - Rated a 5
This is insanely good! I love the realism. It's a vivid painting of what happened.
IMHO, much better than Peter Jackson's portrayl.
Comment by Mædhros - May 3, 2002 @ 10:10 PM - Rated a 5
.... Ted Nasmith's works are good, but there seems to be something in _nearly_ all of them that doesn't please my eye, so to say. I don't know what it is. Or maybe it's the green-eyed monster of jealousy.
Comment by rithrin*cahthar - May 4, 2002 @ 12:38 AM - Rated a 3
.... Ted Nasmith's works are good, but there seems to be something in _nearly_ all of them that doesn't please my eye, so to say. I don't know what it is. Or maybe it's the green-eyed monster of jealousy.
Comment by rithrin*cahthar - May 4, 2002 @ 12:38 AM - Rated a 3
I submit that after reading all of YOUR sorry, frustrating and annoying comments, I have none. Have a nice day everyone!
Comment by Istari_girl - May 4, 2002 @ 6:27 PM
I submit that after reading all of YOUR sorry, frustrating and annoying comments, I have none. Have a nice day everyone!
Comment by Istari_girl - May 4, 2002 @ 6:27 PM
Though I mentioned that the characters didn't look right, I wasn't disappointed by the picture. Melianndoriath, you are right. Nasmith is trying to capture the event, moment, and mood of the scene. Every artist has different interpretations, and this is Nasmith's interpretation of the characters.
Comment by fishy071 - May 5, 2002 @ 12:47 AM
Though I mentioned that the characters didn't look right, I wasn't disappointed by the picture. Melianndoriath, you are right. Nasmith is trying to capture the event, moment, and mood of the scene. Every artist has different interpretations, and this is Nasmith's interpretation of the characters.
Comment by fishy071 - May 5, 2002 @ 12:47 AM
i dont like this picture! wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs? i dont like the way they drew Boromir's face- it looks dead, and is realistic, but... his chin sticks out so far and that bothers me... sorry, just my opinion.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:33 AM - Rated a 2
i dont like this picture! wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs? i dont like the way they drew Boromir's face- it looks dead, and is realistic, but... his chin sticks out so far and that bothers me... sorry, just my opinion.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:33 AM - Rated a 2
Soul.pud- i agree. neither of the guys look right. they're not wearing any protctive armor, and neither of the guys look right.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:34 AM
Soul.pud- i agree. neither of the guys look right. they're not wearing any protctive armor, and neither of the guys look right.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:34 AM
but boromir looks kinda screwy- and this isnt a messageboard!!! If you want to have a conversation, use the existing messageboard! This is for comments, not conversations. :p whoa there, turbo...
Comment by lalatiel - May 5, 2002 @ 8:08 AM - Rated a 4
but boromir looks kinda screwy- and this isnt a messageboard!!! If you want to have a conversation, use the existing messageboard! This is for comments, not conversations. :p whoa there, turbo...
Comment by lalatiel - May 5, 2002 @ 8:08 AM - Rated a 4
Nasmith did such a good job- catching Boromir in the throes of death, the blood falling from his body, Aragorn kissing him godbye, in a sense. It's just how i pictured it. And, I've seen this comment around- what about protective armor? If you're going on a very long journey, and stealth is your biggest problem, you aren't about to go clanking around in a 200 pound suit of metal armor. Leather wasn't even good enough! But, as they say, each to his own... :)
Comment by *Silvertears* - May 5, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 5
Nasmith did such a good job- catching Boromir in the throes of death, the blood falling from his body, Aragorn kissing him godbye, in a sense. It's just how i pictured it. And, I've seen this comment around- what about protective armor? If you're going on a very long journey, and stealth is your biggest problem, you aren't about to go clanking around in a 200 pound suit of metal armor. Leather wasn't even good enough! But, as they say, each to his own... :)
Comment by *Silvertears* - May 5, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 5
the drawing itself is good,but Agree with practicly everyone here...the bad and the good stuff
everyone is practicly dissing each other also......
crazy!
chow~
Comment by Spiritwhisper - May 5, 2002 @ 10:25 AM - Rated a 4
the drawing itself is good,but Agree with practicly everyone here...the bad and the good stuff
everyone is practicly dissing each other also......
crazy!
chow~
Comment by Spiritwhisper - May 5, 2002 @ 10:25 AM - Rated a 4
I think Nasmith should stick to illustrating landscape, he does a wonderful job with it. In the picture, Boromir has the profile of Quasimodo in the Hunchback of Notre Dame. His nose and forehead and eyes should be farther back to give him a more noble look. If Aragorn lives to be 209, and he is now 87/88, then shouldn't he look something like a late thirties or early forties kind of person? Here he looks fifties/sixties. I also think there is not enough blood on the ground. It looks too clean for there to have just been a bloody battle.
Comment by x_evenstar_x - May 5, 2002 @ 11:24 AM - Rated a 3
I think Nasmith should stick to illustrating landscape, he does a wonderful job with it. In the picture, Boromir has the profile of Quasimodo in the Hunchback of Notre Dame. His nose and forehead and eyes should be farther back to give him a more noble look. If Aragorn lives to be 209, and he is now 87/88, then shouldn't he look something like a late thirties or early forties kind of person? Here he looks fifties/sixties. I also think there is not enough blood on the ground. It looks too clean for there to have just been a bloody battle.
Comment by x_evenstar_x - May 5, 2002 @ 11:24 AM - Rated a 3
Excellent illustration, it?s very close from the way Tolkien describes the characters. The only thing wrong with this scene is the orcs blood, wich I suppose should be black, not red.
Boromir is too pale? Well, that happens when you?re dying and lost too much blood. Aragorn is not as handsome as in the movie? Tolkien ALWAYS described him as an UGLY man, marked by time and his life as a ranger. The gray stripes in his hair are RIGHT, like Frodo notices the first time he met him. About the lenght of his hair, I don?t remember if it?s mentioned anytime in the books, so noone can say it?s wrong or right.
Comment by arquimax - May 5, 2002 @ 1:41 PM - Rated a 5
Excellent illustration, it?s very close from the way Tolkien describes the characters. The only thing wrong with this scene is the orcs blood, wich I suppose should be black, not red.
Boromir is too pale? Well, that happens when you?re dying and lost too much blood. Aragorn is not as handsome as in the movie? Tolkien ALWAYS described him as an UGLY man, marked by time and his life as a ranger. The gray stripes in his hair are RIGHT, like Frodo notices the first time he met him. About the lenght of his hair, I don?t remember if it?s mentioned anytime in the books, so noone can say it?s wrong or right.
Comment by arquimax - May 5, 2002 @ 1:41 PM - Rated a 5
I am afraid that I must, respectfuly, dissagree. I think that it is great that people can come to this sight and actually discuss poetry and art. Yes, comments on the art are good, but the conversation is fascinating and educating. I enjoy reading the conversations and emotions that are evoked by the art and books.
Anyways, I love the art, it is excelent, but, it is not my image of Boromir's death scene. Ted is a really good artist, I love his backgrounds but it just isn't right.
Comment by DarkQueen - May 6, 2002 @ 3:42 PM - Rated a 3
I am afraid that I must, respectfuly, dissagree. I think that it is great that people can come to this sight and actually discuss poetry and art. Yes, comments on the art are good, but the conversation is fascinating and educating. I enjoy reading the conversations and emotions that are evoked by the art and books.
Anyways, I love the art, it is excelent, but, it is not my image of Boromir's death scene. Ted is a really good artist, I love his backgrounds but it just isn't right.
Comment by DarkQueen - May 6, 2002 @ 3:42 PM - Rated a 3
Amen sister! I hate it when people are like, this 'a message board. I like talking to people and check the comments all the time, just to see what people are saying. Anyway, I tried to use the messageboard and didn't get it. I think it's great that people actually have an opinion about stuff like this and are willing to back it up and talk about it with others.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 6, 2002 @ 8:34 PM
Amen sister! I hate it when people are like, this 'a message board. I like talking to people and check the comments all the time, just to see what people are saying. Anyway, I tried to use the messageboard and didn't get it. I think it's great that people actually have an opinion about stuff like this and are willing to back it up and talk about it with others.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 6, 2002 @ 8:34 PM
They're white.
Boromir's face looks like a great contender for a Mouth of Sauron pic.
Boromir's toes can be seen!
Why do the orcs have red blood? I thought they had black.
And daughterofpaladin: I agree, he should be kinda pale, he's dead, ya know? But if he were to be as pale as this pic suggests, then where the heck is his blood? I see that the leaves are stained with it, but that could be the orc's, and also the blood on the arrows isn't oozing all over his body. And if he did lose as much blood as he appears to have lost, then how could he have spoke to Aragorn before he died? Sorry, being kinda nitpicky.
I am afraid I must give this a 3.7. It is too exaggerated for a four.
Comment by Drareth - May 6, 2002 @ 11:22 PM - Rated a 3
They're white.
Boromir's face looks like a great contender for a Mouth of Sauron pic.
Boromir's toes can be seen!
Why do the orcs have red blood? I thought they had black.
And daughterofpaladin: I agree, he should be kinda pale, he's dead, ya know? But if he were to be as pale as this pic suggests, then where the heck is his blood? I see that the leaves are stained with it, but that could be the orc's, and also the blood on the arrows isn't oozing all over his body. And if he did lose as much blood as he appears to have lost, then how could he have spoke to Aragorn before he died? Sorry, being kinda nitpicky.
I am afraid I must give this a 3.7. It is too exaggerated for a four.
Comment by Drareth - May 6, 2002 @ 11:22 PM - Rated a 3
(For the translation.)
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 7, 2002 @ 8:01 AM
(For the translation.)
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 7, 2002 @ 8:01 AM
It's pants but the artist did put a lot of effort into it, and it's not my place to judge it. He is not that bad, it's just that they don't look right. Everybody appriciates different art, and this aint my cup of tea.
Comment by ElfOfMirkwood - May 7, 2002 @ 12:41 PM - Rated a 4
It's pants but the artist did put a lot of effort into it, and it's not my place to judge it. He is not that bad, it's just that they don't look right. Everybody appriciates different art, and this aint my cup of tea.
Comment by ElfOfMirkwood - May 7, 2002 @ 12:41 PM - Rated a 4
I'm torn here... on the one hand, Aragorn looks extremely fitting, and I don't think any artist's imagination would have done better, even if it might vary. On the other, Boromir is completely wrong, he looks like, um, i think his name was igor? or maybe it was uncle fester from the adams family? at any rate, having a monk-haircut is one thing, but he also looks like a scary evil person and not at all like a noble prince of Gondor.
Comment by Charis - May 7, 2002 @ 6:14 PM - Rated a 3
I'm torn here... on the one hand, Aragorn looks extremely fitting, and I don't think any artist's imagination would have done better, even if it might vary. On the other, Boromir is completely wrong, he looks like, um, i think his name was igor? or maybe it was uncle fester from the adams family? at any rate, having a monk-haircut is one thing, but he also looks like a scary evil person and not at all like a noble prince of Gondor.
Comment by Charis - May 7, 2002 @ 6:14 PM - Rated a 3
I just hav an evil, twisted miind, and I don't like Boromir anyway. Forgive me. DarkQueen, I don't entirely dissagree with you, but two comments: 1, I know you haven't read the books, so shutup(and you've only seen the movie 3 times) 2, stop using big words to confuse other, simple minded people! please excuse me if you're not the DarkQueen that I think you are(my older, cheating, boy-crazy, self-posessed sister!)
Comment by scream4frodo:) - May 8, 2002 @ 5:23 AM - Rated a 4
I just hav an evil, twisted miind, and I don't like Boromir anyway. Forgive me. DarkQueen, I don't entirely dissagree with you, but two comments: 1, I know you haven't read the books, so shutup(and you've only seen the movie 3 times) 2, stop using big words to confuse other, simple minded people! please excuse me if you're not the DarkQueen that I think you are(my older, cheating, boy-crazy, self-posessed sister!)
Comment by scream4frodo:) - May 8, 2002 @ 5:23 AM - Rated a 4
Aunque todas las muertes no sean buenas por que no morir por algo en que se cree. Nadie vive para toda la vida pero si que es para toda la vida una muerte heroica.
waterlife
Comment by WATERLIFE - May 8, 2002 @ 11:04 AM - Rated a 5
Aunque todas las muertes no sean buenas por que no morir por algo en que se cree. Nadie vive para toda la vida pero si que es para toda la vida una muerte heroica.
waterlife
Comment by WATERLIFE - May 8, 2002 @ 11:04 AM - Rated a 5
Waterlife is saying what? Hey fishy, come help me out here! btw good pic.
Comment by PigglyWiggly - May 8, 2002 @ 1:15 PM - Rated a 5
Waterlife is saying what? Hey fishy, come help me out here! btw good pic.
Comment by PigglyWiggly - May 8, 2002 @ 1:15 PM - Rated a 5
I can't believe ya'll!!! You are getting so caught up in technicalities! You've rated people better who have sent in a scetch on notebook paper that have no creativity and are simply compies of the movie characters!!!! Can you do this? Can you paint the portrait of what think Boromir should look like? Ted Nasmith has taken on a very hard responsiblity: painting scenes that people have already decided what they look like. Have have a few people I would like to point out specificaly:
fishy071 - "Aragorn's face looks a little too red" Well he's just stoped fighting hundreds of Orcs, I think he has a right to be a little flushed.
*Lady_Greenleaf - heh heh, boy have I got alot to say to you! "wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs?" Well, he's just been SHOT DOWN by HUNDREDS of Orcs, there is a big chance that some of them hit his legs. "Boromir's face-it looks dead...." Well yea! He's going to die in a few seconds. Poeple don't just stay all pink & rosie until they breathe their last and THEN look dead. "....and is realistic" Aw, gee. Your right. I'll tell him that his attempts to draw the cartoon weren't comical enough for the little kids.... WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!!!!!! I'm having doughts about wether you actually read the book, and if you did it's a wonder you didn't loose your stomach all the way through it. "they're not wearing any protective armor" I know this might blow your mind, but back then they had this 'stuff' called cain-mail and they wore that UNDER their clothes. Kind of like a kevlar vest- WHICH CAN'T BE SEEN. I'm sorry if i'm treating you like an idiot, but if you don't want to be treated that way then don't talk that way. "wuz wit" give me a break!
Drareth - "Boromir's toes can be seen!" What the heck is that? No they can't! Even if they could what's the matter with that?
And for the vast majority of you - "Wah, wah, wah. Boromir is too evil looking and he isn't noble enough." well boohoo! He's just come from being under the jealous control of the ring!!! He has his impurities about his soul. He resembles his father and look how evil he turned! "Ewww! Aragorn is ugly and old!" Aw, all the little adolescent girl hearts are broken. As arquimax said, Aragorn is supposed to be ugly. If anything ya'll should be ranting on how NOT ugly he is and how THAT differs from the book.
You people really should give up your self-centered veiws on how every peice of Tolkien art should look exactly how you imagined it in the book. Artists are allowed creative freedom. The important thing is the mood, as many more educated individuals have mentioned. That picture is so real and detailed you can imagine what Aragorn's boots feel like, or how cold and clamy Boromir's face is. You must remember the emotion during this time in the book. Boromir has just told Aragorn of the horrid deed he has done against Frodo, yet Aragorn, with his kind compassion, still honors him. This is Boromir's least glorified moment (internally) and Aragorn tells no one of it, exclaiming only on his bravery in the Orc battle. I can see all these emotions here.
Excuse my cruelty, the overwhelming majority of ignorant comments entreated my inner brutality to shine through.
Comment by talula - May 8, 2002 @ 2:03 PM - Rated a 5
I can't believe ya'll!!! You are getting so caught up in technicalities! You've rated people better who have sent in a scetch on notebook paper that have no creativity and are simply compies of the movie characters!!!! Can you do this? Can you paint the portrait of what think Boromir should look like? Ted Nasmith has taken on a very hard responsiblity: painting scenes that people have already decided what they look like. Have have a few people I would like to point out specificaly:
fishy071 - "Aragorn's face looks a little too red" Well he's just stoped fighting hundreds of Orcs, I think he has a right to be a little flushed.
*Lady_Greenleaf - heh heh, boy have I got alot to say to you! "wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs?" Well, he's just been SHOT DOWN by HUNDREDS of Orcs, there is a big chance that some of them hit his legs. "Boromir's face-it looks dead...." Well yea! He's going to die in a few seconds. Poeple don't just stay all pink & rosie until they breathe their last and THEN look dead. "....and is realistic" Aw, gee. Your right. I'll tell him that his attempts to draw the cartoon weren't comical enough for the little kids.... WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!!!!!! I'm having doughts about wether you actually read the book, and if you did it's a wonder you didn't loose your stomach all the way through it. "they're not wearing any protective armor" I know this might blow your mind, but back then they had this 'stuff' called cain-mail and they wore that UNDER their clothes. Kind of like a kevlar vest- WHICH CAN'T BE SEEN. I'm sorry if i'm treating you like an idiot, but if you don't want to be treated that way then don't talk that way. "wuz wit" give me a break!
Drareth - "Boromir's toes can be seen!" What the heck is that? No they can't! Even if they could what's the matter with that?
And for the vast majority of you - "Wah, wah, wah. Boromir is too evil looking and he isn't noble enough." well boohoo! He's just come from being under the jealous control of the ring!!! He has his impurities about his soul. He resembles his father and look how evil he turned! "Ewww! Aragorn is ugly and old!" Aw, all the little adolescent girl hearts are broken. As arquimax said, Aragorn is supposed to be ugly. If anything ya'll should be ranting on how NOT ugly he is and how THAT differs from the book.
You people really should give up your self-centered veiws on how every peice of Tolkien art should look exactly how you imagined it in the book. Artists are allowed creative freedom. The important thing is the mood, as many more educated individuals have mentioned. That picture is so real and detailed you can imagine what Aragorn's boots feel like, or how cold and clamy Boromir's face is. You must remember the emotion during this time in the book. Boromir has just told Aragorn of the horrid deed he has done against Frodo, yet Aragorn, with his kind compassion, still honors him. This is Boromir's least glorified moment (internally) and Aragorn tells no one of it, exclaiming only on his bravery in the Orc battle. I can see all these emotions here.
Excuse my cruelty, the overwhelming majority of ignorant comments entreated my inner brutality to shine through.
Comment by talula - May 8, 2002 @ 2:03 PM - Rated a 5
I do think the picture is original and meticulous.
However it is a bit too original. I do not rember reading about either Boromir or Aragorn looking so old or ugly. I'm not saying talula's comments are wrong, I just don't remember that.
Whatever happened to their beards? Aren't they supposed to have some?
The setting seems perfect.
Are the orcs supposed to look like they have nothing under the chain-mail?
There's no other living creature in the scene. Maybe even adding some insects would make it feel more real.
Sorry Talula, but it just doesn't FEEL real. It looks great as an art, but it doesn't portray the same feeling as the book, whether it be the details, the setting, mood, etc. there deffinitely is something wrong.
Comment by StarWarsD - May 8, 2002 @ 4:08 PM - Rated a 3
I do think the picture is original and meticulous.
However it is a bit too original. I do not rember reading about either Boromir or Aragorn looking so old or ugly. I'm not saying talula's comments are wrong, I just don't remember that.
Whatever happened to their beards? Aren't they supposed to have some?
The setting seems perfect.
Are the orcs supposed to look like they have nothing under the chain-mail?
There's no other living creature in the scene. Maybe even adding some insects would make it feel more real.
Sorry Talula, but it just doesn't FEEL real. It looks great as an art, but it doesn't portray the same feeling as the book, whether it be the details, the setting, mood, etc. there deffinitely is something wrong.
Comment by StarWarsD - May 8, 2002 @ 4:08 PM - Rated a 3
and talula, maybe you shouldnt go around screaming at people for their opninions. i respect yours, but maybe you should respect others'.
Comment by luthienelflover - May 8, 2002 @ 6:59 PM
and talula, maybe you shouldnt go around screaming at people for their opninions. i respect yours, but maybe you should respect others'.
Comment by luthienelflover - May 8, 2002 @ 6:59 PM
I agree with you, though each person is entitled to their own opinion. But I defenantly think that some people are extremely petty. One of the wonderful things about Tolkien is he is very a unselfish writer by leaving a lot to the reader's imagination. When some guy creates a different world, there are bound to be differences in opinions on it. Have any of us jumped inside Tolkien's head and seen how he pictured Aragorn? And better yet, if we could, would he let us? He would want to leave it up to the imagination, which is one of the brilliant things about him. He wants to see how each and every one of us interprets his work. If he wanted it one way, his books would either be six million pages long because of all the detailed description and no one would buy them, or he would never have published them.
I am sorry if I sound angry, but its eleven o'clock and I have just been at a five hour rehearsal for the fourth time this week and our show opens Friday, so I am a little stressed.
I am seriously about to faint, so I am gonna sign off now, if I never post again, I just died.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 8, 2002 @ 9:06 PM
I agree with you, though each person is entitled to their own opinion. But I defenantly think that some people are extremely petty. One of the wonderful things about Tolkien is he is very a unselfish writer by leaving a lot to the reader's imagination. When some guy creates a different world, there are bound to be differences in opinions on it. Have any of us jumped inside Tolkien's head and seen how he pictured Aragorn? And better yet, if we could, would he let us? He would want to leave it up to the imagination, which is one of the brilliant things about him. He wants to see how each and every one of us interprets his work. If he wanted it one way, his books would either be six million pages long because of all the detailed description and no one would buy them, or he would never have published them.
I am sorry if I sound angry, but its eleven o'clock and I have just been at a five hour rehearsal for the fourth time this week and our show opens Friday, so I am a little stressed.
I am seriously about to faint, so I am gonna sign off now, if I never post again, I just died.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 8, 2002 @ 9:06 PM
The artwork resembles something right out of a medieval manuscript. It reminds me of artwork monk scribes used to do in books. Neat.
Comment by Valirion - May 8, 2002 @ 10:22 PM - Rated a 4
The artwork resembles something right out of a medieval manuscript. It reminds me of artwork monk scribes used to do in books. Neat.
Comment by Valirion - May 8, 2002 @ 10:22 PM - Rated a 4
talula, if 'technicalities' were not in a piece of art, then we shall have abstract images and vague outlines. If a person is creating his/her first picture, then they need to be complimented on it, so that they can continue to make them. Once established as a 'full-time' artist, and they're pictures evolve more and more, they deserve more critisism, so that they know what to improve on. But why not do this when they start, you ask? Because if you did, then the person would get frusterated, thinking that he/she is not good enough at drawing. If you continue to praise the person, then they would grow very proud, too proud. You must also remember that some of these people don't go to universities and get master degrees in art, as I am sure Ted Nasmith and John Howe have. None of us are claiming to be better than the artist, but we are all entitled to our own opinion, as are you, but if you flame people about they're lack of reading the LOTR books, then you are probably shutting someone's door to Tolkien. You were once new to LOTR, correct? How would you feel if someone yelled at you for not reading the books? Boromir is NOT, repeat NOT EVIL. Just because the ring tainted his mind does not mean that he is evil. ***BOOK SPOILER*** Frodo was corrupted by the ring, and nobody lay claims that he's evil. The reasons why Boromir was the first to fall is mainly because of process of elimination. He was the 'weakest' of the Fellowship, though Pippin and Merry were weaker in physical and mental strength, they knew little of the ring, and the ring was not trying to currupt them. Boromir's worst trait was his pride, and the ring knew this, and exploited it. Whoa...can you imagine what would happen if Pippin took the ring? He'd force all living persons to bring him food and 'pints' I bet. Anyways, back to subject, I personally believe that Ted Nasmith's mental image of Boromir was different to the one he painted, because it is incredibly hard to correct a mistake on a painting. However, if my theory is true, then he doesn't get any sympathy points for this, because what happened, has happened. 99% of the time, you cannot convince a person that has a mental image of something, that your mental image is more realistic than your friend's. Think of it this way: if one person thinks that Sauron looks like a devil, then you cannot convince him/her that Sauron doesn't look that way. Of course there is no way to tell, considering the writing is (in a good way) so vague, it is up to the individual viewers to decide. Most of my rant should (hopefully) be giving you Tolkien's original view, and (again, hopefully) very little editorial comments. My heart did indeed melt as I looked at Boromir and Aragorn in the thumbnail, and for a few moments on the fullscreen view, but I had to pay attention to details, and that is why my score is average. But I do believe I shall raise it to above average, making it a 4, because it is a great work of art, and not every picture has touched me, albeit for a slightly short period of time. But it does NOT deserve a 5, for a 5 is perfection, the cream of the crop, the highest of the high. This is NOT perfect, and that is why I measure scores using decimals.
I hope I have kept my composure during this. I meant no offense, and only wanted to remind you to NEVER flame someone, even though your post was more teasing than flaming. I was tempted to flame you, but decided that that was a very, very dumb idea. I knew that I would get into a flame war with you, and if there's one thing I hate, it's a flame war. And besides, retaliation is always worse.
Daughterofpaladin, you did not sound angry at all. May I ask what the rehearsal was for? That is, if you are still alive....
And the toes thing! It's totally humor, and you can see what *kinda* looks like toes on the leg closest to you.
Comment by Drareth - May 8, 2002 @ 10:57 PM
talula, if 'technicalities' were not in a piece of art, then we shall have abstract images and vague outlines. If a person is creating his/her first picture, then they need to be complimented on it, so that they can continue to make them. Once established as a 'full-time' artist, and they're pictures evolve more and more, they deserve more critisism, so that they know what to improve on. But why not do this when they start, you ask? Because if you did, then the person would get frusterated, thinking that he/she is not good enough at drawing. If you continue to praise the person, then they would grow very proud, too proud. You must also remember that some of these people don't go to universities and get master degrees in art, as I am sure Ted Nasmith and John Howe have. None of us are claiming to be better than the artist, but we are all entitled to our own opinion, as are you, but if you flame people about they're lack of reading the LOTR books, then you are probably shutting someone's door to Tolkien. You were once new to LOTR, correct? How would you feel if someone yelled at you for not reading the books? Boromir is NOT, repeat NOT EVIL. Just because the ring tainted his mind does not mean that he is evil. ***BOOK SPOILER*** Frodo was corrupted by the ring, and nobody lay claims that he's evil. The reasons why Boromir was the first to fall is mainly because of process of elimination. He was the 'weakest' of the Fellowship, though Pippin and Merry were weaker in physical and mental strength, they knew little of the ring, and the ring was not trying to currupt them. Boromir's worst trait was his pride, and the ring knew this, and exploited it. Whoa...can you imagine what would happen if Pippin took the ring? He'd force all living persons to bring him food and 'pints' I bet. Anyways, back to subject, I personally believe that Ted Nasmith's mental image of Boromir was different to the one he painted, because it is incredibly hard to correct a mistake on a painting. However, if my theory is true, then he doesn't get any sympathy points for this, because what happened, has happened. 99% of the time, you cannot convince a person that has a mental image of something, that your mental image is more realistic than your friend's. Think of it this way: if one person thinks that Sauron looks like a devil, then you cannot convince him/her that Sauron doesn't look that way. Of course there is no way to tell, considering the writing is (in a good way) so vague, it is up to the individual viewers to decide. Most of my rant should (hopefully) be giving you Tolkien's original view, and (again, hopefully) very little editorial comments. My heart did indeed melt as I looked at Boromir and Aragorn in the thumbnail, and for a few moments on the fullscreen view, but I had to pay attention to details, and that is why my score is average. But I do believe I shall raise it to above average, making it a 4, because it is a great work of art, and not every picture has touched me, albeit for a slightly short period of time. But it does NOT deserve a 5, for a 5 is perfection, the cream of the crop, the highest of the high. This is NOT perfect, and that is why I measure scores using decimals.
I hope I have kept my composure during this. I meant no offense, and only wanted to remind you to NEVER flame someone, even though your post was more teasing than flaming. I was tempted to flame you, but decided that that was a very, very dumb idea. I knew that I would get into a flame war with you, and if there's one thing I hate, it's a flame war. And besides, retaliation is always worse.
Daughterofpaladin, you did not sound angry at all. May I ask what the rehearsal was for? That is, if you are still alive....
And the toes thing! It's totally humor, and you can see what *kinda* looks like toes on the leg closest to you.
Comment by Drareth - May 8, 2002 @ 10:57 PM
why are all the orcs piled up .i don't think they died like that .and if aragorn ,legolas or gimli placed them that way ,they must have kept boromir waiting.... anyway ,i like boromir's face : it shows agony ,pain ,struggle for life..... aragorn is 87 years old ?!?!?!?!?!!??!!? and they do look like truands...for guys who're noble ,i mean . even if aragorn is supposed to look weathered..... and ,yes ,why aren't they wearing something more ...protective ? despite those details , it's great
Comment by lucy.b - May 9, 2002 @ 9:03 AM - Rated a 4
why are all the orcs piled up .i don't think they died like that .and if aragorn ,legolas or gimli placed them that way ,they must have kept boromir waiting.... anyway ,i like boromir's face : it shows agony ,pain ,struggle for life..... aragorn is 87 years old ?!?!?!?!?!!??!!? and they do look like truands...for guys who're noble ,i mean . even if aragorn is supposed to look weathered..... and ,yes ,why aren't they wearing something more ...protective ? despite those details , it's great
Comment by lucy.b - May 9, 2002 @ 9:03 AM - Rated a 4
In TFotR it is clearly stated that the orc-bodies were piled up all around Boromir, because he fought that valiantly. And yes, Aragorn is 87. How many times do people have to say...hey, wait a minute, you are one of those people who have just found out about this page, and start commenting without even reading the book! Please go and play chess (or try to read the book for a change) and stop using the sites valuable space...!
You guys make me sick.
Ow yeah, next pic please!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 9, 2002 @ 10:51 AM
In TFotR it is clearly stated that the orc-bodies were piled up all around Boromir, because he fought that valiantly. And yes, Aragorn is 87. How many times do people have to say...hey, wait a minute, you are one of those people who have just found out about this page, and start commenting without even reading the book! Please go and play chess (or try to read the book for a change) and stop using the sites valuable space...!
You guys make me sick.
Ow yeah, next pic please!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 9, 2002 @ 10:51 AM
The commentors on this picture have run their course. Let's look at something else.
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 12:11 PM
The commentors on this picture have run their course. Let's look at something else.
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 12:11 PM
Hey ya'll, I'm usually not like that. It must be the PMS. I guess reading so many opinions over and over that I had such strong feelings against in the first place caused my violent outburst. I don't want a flame war either, and I don't like being flamed, just as everybody else doesn't. That was my whole reason for getting upset, Drareth, was because I felt that others weren't appreciating the fact that Tolkien wanted his character's portrail to be left up to the mind of the individual reader. I didn't mean to make it sound like Boromir was evil, I know he's not. What I meant was that his father went mad/turned evil (any way you want to look at it) and that he had his father's quick tempered tendancies. When I read the book, I thought Boromir was a "jerk." As though if he were to be my age and I met him, that's what I would think. I guess when I look back at my post and read it myself in the tone that I was writting it in, it sounds funnier than what I'm sure everyone took it to be. I've been having a bad couple of days. I am teased non-stop, and what makes it worse is they're my FRIENDS that tease me. I've been coming home from school so mad lately. Not that that should excuse my behavior. I would invite you to look at my other post-n-such. I really don't usually bash people like that. I realise now I was being a hypocrite. Wanting people to accept others perspectives of Tolkien's writings, when I wasn't accepting others opinions. I agree, there are minor flaws like the orc blood not being blue and the men not having any facial hair, but one usually doesn't remember that from a first reading and Ted N. may have been more interested in the artistic aspects then the technicalities. Us poor "scholars" must hold on to the facts, being that we know more about them than art. I do think that adding more life, like insects, would overcrowd the picture and cause onlookers to focus on other aspects than the main happening. And Drareth, I would like to know out of curiosity what you meant about Boromir's toes being seen.
-Ashamed and Humbled
P.S. I just saw the fine print under the comment box: "Please keep all your comments friendly. Do not engage in personal attacks or other comments that will be consrued as trolling." Well....hmmmmm...
-The even more Ashamed and Humbled Troller
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:27 PM
Hey ya'll, I'm usually not like that. It must be the PMS. I guess reading so many opinions over and over that I had such strong feelings against in the first place caused my violent outburst. I don't want a flame war either, and I don't like being flamed, just as everybody else doesn't. That was my whole reason for getting upset, Drareth, was because I felt that others weren't appreciating the fact that Tolkien wanted his character's portrail to be left up to the mind of the individual reader. I didn't mean to make it sound like Boromir was evil, I know he's not. What I meant was that his father went mad/turned evil (any way you want to look at it) and that he had his father's quick tempered tendancies. When I read the book, I thought Boromir was a "jerk." As though if he were to be my age and I met him, that's what I would think. I guess when I look back at my post and read it myself in the tone that I was writting it in, it sounds funnier than what I'm sure everyone took it to be. I've been having a bad couple of days. I am teased non-stop, and what makes it worse is they're my FRIENDS that tease me. I've been coming home from school so mad lately. Not that that should excuse my behavior. I would invite you to look at my other post-n-such. I really don't usually bash people like that. I realise now I was being a hypocrite. Wanting people to accept others perspectives of Tolkien's writings, when I wasn't accepting others opinions. I agree, there are minor flaws like the orc blood not being blue and the men not having any facial hair, but one usually doesn't remember that from a first reading and Ted N. may have been more interested in the artistic aspects then the technicalities. Us poor "scholars" must hold on to the facts, being that we know more about them than art. I do think that adding more life, like insects, would overcrowd the picture and cause onlookers to focus on other aspects than the main happening. And Drareth, I would like to know out of curiosity what you meant about Boromir's toes being seen.
-Ashamed and Humbled
P.S. I just saw the fine print under the comment box: "Please keep all your comments friendly. Do not engage in personal attacks or other comments that will be consrued as trolling." Well....hmmmmm...
-The even more Ashamed and Humbled Troller
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:27 PM
I know what the toe thing is know- lol!
-Ashamed, Humbled, and now Stupid
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:36 PM
I know what the toe thing is know- lol!
-Ashamed, Humbled, and now Stupid
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:36 PM
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith. In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:55 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith. In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:55 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith. In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:56 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith. In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:56 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith. In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:57 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith. In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:57 PM - Rated a 5
I did not mean to post three times. My computer told me that it did not post. So I went to look and it was there three times. Sorry, Tom B.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 3:00 PM
I did not mean to post three times. My computer told me that it did not post. So I went to look and it was there three times. Sorry, Tom B.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 3:00 PM
Your apology , sincere and heartfelt, is a rare thing in the cyberworld and in the real world.
I didn't find your original post offensive, (of course, I wasn't targeted specifically) just wrong headed. If artists have creative freedom then critics are free to critique. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but, of course, not all opinions are necessarily valid. I only take a critic seriously if he or she provides some kind of support or reason for the opinion. That being said, I can also understand gut reactions to any work of art and the often times the difficulty of not being able to provide a reason for the gut reaction.
Anyway, keep your opinions and ideas coming.
Alright, already, next picture PLEASE!
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 6:23 PM
Your apology , sincere and heartfelt, is a rare thing in the cyberworld and in the real world.
I didn't find your original post offensive, (of course, I wasn't targeted specifically) just wrong headed. If artists have creative freedom then critics are free to critique. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but, of course, not all opinions are necessarily valid. I only take a critic seriously if he or she provides some kind of support or reason for the opinion. That being said, I can also understand gut reactions to any work of art and the often times the difficulty of not being able to provide a reason for the gut reaction.
Anyway, keep your opinions and ideas coming.
Alright, already, next picture PLEASE!
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 6:23 PM
Gastbona, you stole the words from my mouth. Talula, you are truly a kind person, you could have easily flamed me back (sorry, I sounded pretty high and mighty on my last [incredibly long] post) and never speak to me again. Instead, you apolagized, which is, as Gastbona has said, is extremely rare. And then you went the extra mile and told us why you were angry, and also stated that there was no excuse for your behavior. I must disagree, for you do need to release your anger somewhere. And this just added fuel to the fire, so why not take it out here? Just always remember (as if you'd forget) to explain your behavior.
Your humbleness is inspirational.
-Me
P.S. Don't insult yourself. You do not deserve it.
P.P.S. Whoever can even scan through my last post deserves a pat on the back. That was the longest thing I've ever typed.
P.S.P.S.P.S. I'm glad you noticed the toe thing!
-ME
Comment by Drareth - May 9, 2002 @ 11:00 PM
Gastbona, you stole the words from my mouth. Talula, you are truly a kind person, you could have easily flamed me back (sorry, I sounded pretty high and mighty on my last [incredibly long] post) and never speak to me again. Instead, you apolagized, which is, as Gastbona has said, is extremely rare. And then you went the extra mile and told us why you were angry, and also stated that there was no excuse for your behavior. I must disagree, for you do need to release your anger somewhere. And this just added fuel to the fire, so why not take it out here? Just always remember (as if you'd forget) to explain your behavior.
Your humbleness is inspirational.
-Me
P.S. Don't insult yourself. You do not deserve it.
P.P.S. Whoever can even scan through my last post deserves a pat on the back. That was the longest thing I've ever typed.
P.S.P.S.P.S. I'm glad you noticed the toe thing!
-ME
Comment by Drareth - May 9, 2002 @ 11:00 PM
Even though Aragorn and Boromir didn't get to know each other very much, it's sad to loose someone in the Fellowship who volunteered to help...I don't think that he wanted to die.
Comment by celadinebanks - July 19, 2002 @ 1:57 PM - Rated a 5
Even though Aragorn and Boromir didn't get to know each other very much, it's sad to loose someone in the Fellowship who volunteered to help...I don't think that he wanted to die.
Comment by celadinebanks - July 19, 2002 @ 1:57 PM - Rated a 5
Comment by gwilwering - August 16, 2002 @ 11:10 AM - Rated a 3
Comment by gwilwering - August 16, 2002 @ 11:10 AM - Rated a 3
Comment by lala_bloom - November 23, 2002 @ 6:50 PM
Comment by lala_bloom - November 23, 2002 @ 6:50 PM
How many arrows can that man take...i think it is weirdly drawn, but let me not start on that
Comment by LadyoftheMirkwoodElves144 - December 22, 2002 @ 12:40 AM
How many arrows can that man take...i think it is weirdly drawn, but let me not start on that
Comment by LadyoftheMirkwoodElves144 - December 22, 2002 @ 12:40 AM
Iv'e read the book OK? I know it absolutley NOT, a gay situation but i sure looks like it..
Sorry to say it.
Comment by Elandirioné - March 18, 2003 @ 6:16 AM
Iv'e read the book OK? I know it absolutley NOT, a gay situation but i sure looks like it..
Sorry to say it.
Comment by Elandirioné - March 18, 2003 @ 6:16 AM
...and Aragorn looks ok ( but where`s the beard) but Boromir stinks... Sorry to say that.
Comment by idril_celebrimbal - May 22, 2003 @ 9:47 AM - Rated a 3
...and Aragorn looks ok ( but where`s the beard) but Boromir stinks... Sorry to say that.
Comment by idril_celebrimbal - May 22, 2003 @ 9:47 AM - Rated a 3
I was being just as stupid and hypocritical as the worst of ya... I yelled at Talula for not accepting other's opinions and I certainly wasn't. Sorry
Comment by luthienelflover - June 1, 2003 @ 11:12 AM
I was being just as stupid and hypocritical as the worst of ya... I yelled at Talula for not accepting other's opinions and I certainly wasn't. Sorry
Comment by luthienelflover - June 1, 2003 @ 11:12 AM
What's the problem with Aragorn looking old? He IS old, even taking into account the longer lifespan of the Numenorean race of men. I got the impression from the book that he's supposed to be about 60!
Comment by Calendula - June 3, 2003 @ 3:30 PM - Rated a 3
What's the problem with Aragorn looking old? He IS old, even taking into account the longer lifespan of the Numenorean race of men. I got the impression from the book that he's supposed to be about 60!
Comment by Calendula - June 3, 2003 @ 3:30 PM - Rated a 3
beautiful and well executed painting
Comment by ladykris - January 2, 2004 @ 12:37 PM - Rated a 5
its good artwork, esp the background!!! but the people just don't cut it, i mean they're great but that is so not aragorn... you might do better drawing other things...
Comment by Aragorns_Princess - January 4, 2004 @ 12:44 PM - Rated a 4
Ok, the backround w dead orcs n stuff looks amazing but Aragorn and Boromir don't look like I imagined them.
Comment by Samwise93 - March 20, 2004 @ 5:27 PM - Rated a 4
A truly awesome picture. I first saw it a long while back as a child not long after I'd first had the Lord of the Rings read to me, so it hard for me to say whether the faces seem right to me or not, they would have influenced the images I formed upon subsequently reading the book.
I think that they both don''t look handsome and noble like some film star or plantagnent sculpture is part of the realism. Aragorn is described as careworn rugged wanderer, whilst lets face it Boromir is going to have signficant palour and generally look ill, he'd be in the advance stages of hypovolaemic shock, probably with signifcant internal bleeding. No one looks noble when their dying as a result of trauma, no matter how brave they might feel about it.
Incidently on the armour front, I seem to recall that when the Fellowship are being described at the outset of their journey it states that ony Gimili (and Frodo under his shirt of course) were wereing mail. The rest went without out of a desire to travel light.
Comment by JWLHunter - July 12, 2006 @ 6:18 AM - Rated a 4
Aragorn is awesome, just like I imagined him. I like all the details, the scenery, the carnage...it's very faithfull to the book. On the other hand, Boromir doesn't look right, he has brown hair??? But this pic's so well done and the fact that the emotions felt from reading the book are present there are more than enough to give it a 5!
Comment by Soul.pud - July 5, 2001 @ 2:58 PM - Rated a 5
Aragorn is awesome, just like I imagined him. I like all the details, the scenery, the carnage...it's very faithfull to the book. On the other hand, Boromir doesn't look right, he has brown hair??? But this pic's so well done and the fact that the emotions felt from reading the book are present there are more than enough to give it a 5!
Comment by Soul.pud - July 5, 2001 @ 2:58 PM - Rated a 5
Grody! Good pic tho!
Comment by ~Galadriel_Daughter~ - April 30, 2002 @ 10:49 AM - Rated a 4
Grody! Good pic tho!
Comment by ~Galadriel_Daughter~ - April 30, 2002 @ 10:49 AM - Rated a 4
exactly! Nasmith is the best Tolkien Illistrator.
That is all.
Comment by frogbart - April 30, 2002 @ 11:33 AM - Rated a 5
exactly! Nasmith is the best Tolkien Illistrator.
That is all.
Comment by frogbart - April 30, 2002 @ 11:33 AM - Rated a 5
Nice pic in many ways, but Borormir doesn't look right. His face has no nobility about it. Also, he appears a bit portly. If he had is hair tonsured (bowl shaved on top) he could pass as a friar but I don't about heir to the Steward of Gondor.
Comment by Gastbona - April 30, 2002 @ 11:36 AM - Rated a 3
Nice pic in many ways, but Borormir doesn't look right. His face has no nobility about it. Also, he appears a bit portly. If he had is hair tonsured (bowl shaved on top) he could pass as a friar but I don't about heir to the Steward of Gondor.
Comment by Gastbona - April 30, 2002 @ 11:36 AM - Rated a 3
I love it Ted Nasmith is my favorite. As always, his backgrounds are better than his people, but I love this one, and they are about as close to equal as I can imagine. I dont agree with Gastbona, I think Boromir looks great. The sentiment in this scene is wonderful. Though Gastbona, I do like that you back up your rating with facts and tell why you don't like it. I hate it when people just put a 2 or something and don't say anything.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 1:06 PM - Rated a 5
I love it Ted Nasmith is my favorite. As always, his backgrounds are better than his people, but I love this one, and they are about as close to equal as I can imagine. I dont agree with Gastbona, I think Boromir looks great. The sentiment in this scene is wonderful. Though Gastbona, I do like that you back up your rating with facts and tell why you don't like it. I hate it when people just put a 2 or something and don't say anything.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 1:06 PM - Rated a 5
Its a good overall picture, but something is just not right. Didn't boromir have....um...3 arrows? (Correct me if I am wrong.) I wish I could give it a better rating, but something is just not right.
Comment by _0o_shadowfax_o0_ - April 30, 2002 @ 1:29 PM - Rated a 3
Its a good overall picture, but something is just not right. Didn't boromir have....um...3 arrows? (Correct me if I am wrong.) I wish I could give it a better rating, but something is just not right.
Comment by _0o_shadowfax_o0_ - April 30, 2002 @ 1:29 PM - Rated a 3
that is good....nice detail....i dont like boromir to much though....he looks to pale....he was all noble.....yeah boromir did get hit by three arrows....not as many as the pic
Comment by elf_ranger - April 30, 2002 @ 2:01 PM - Rated a 4
that is good....nice detail....i dont like boromir to much though....he looks to pale....he was all noble.....yeah boromir did get hit by three arrows....not as many as the pic
Comment by elf_ranger - April 30, 2002 @ 2:01 PM - Rated a 4
sorry but (although it is butifull) it is not as tolkien wrote, and therefor cant' be rated higher than 3
Comment by hobbitchild - April 30, 2002 @ 2:11 PM - Rated a 3
sorry but (although it is butifull) it is not as tolkien wrote, and therefor cant' be rated higher than 3
Comment by hobbitchild - April 30, 2002 @ 2:11 PM - Rated a 3
Great detail. I'm sorry, but I don't like Boromir. Neither Aragorn nor Boromir have beards! What's up w/ that? I truly am grateful for the casting of Sean Bean for the part of Boromir.
I would talk more, but I g2g so bye!
Oh yeah before I go I have just one question: why wasn't this in the gallery?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - April 30, 2002 @ 2:37 PM - Rated a 4
Great detail. I'm sorry, but I don't like Boromir. Neither Aragorn nor Boromir have beards! What's up w/ that? I truly am grateful for the casting of Sean Bean for the part of Boromir.
I would talk more, but I g2g so bye!
Oh yeah before I go I have just one question: why wasn't this in the gallery?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - April 30, 2002 @ 2:37 PM - Rated a 4
Go read the book again guys. Boromir got hit with 3 arrows in the movie, not the book. In the book I believe it was something like "numerous arrows". I agree though, Boromir looks more like a friar than a Steward of Gondor. I do like the way he did Aragorn though... he looks old, but not OLD, know what I mean?
Comment by Rayowynn - April 30, 2002 @ 3:58 PM - Rated a 3
Go read the book again guys. Boromir got hit with 3 arrows in the movie, not the book. In the book I believe it was something like "numerous arrows". I agree though, Boromir looks more like a friar than a Steward of Gondor. I do like the way he did Aragorn though... he looks old, but not OLD, know what I mean?
Comment by Rayowynn - April 30, 2002 @ 3:58 PM - Rated a 3
boromir isnt just right.all the other things are great
Comment by nondas - April 30, 2002 @ 4:32 PM - Rated a 4
boromir isnt just right.all the other things are great
Comment by nondas - April 30, 2002 @ 4:32 PM - Rated a 4
It said Boromir was stuck full of arrows in the book, in the movie he just had three and my personal opinion he looked like a human pincushion. And Boromir WOULD be pale if he died. I mean, like, have any of you seen The Patriot? Like Thomas when he died was all pale, it's what happens when you lose a lot of blood. What do ya'll mean by not as Tolkien wrote? I am not trying to provoke anger, I am just curious.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 5:07 PM
It said Boromir was stuck full of arrows in the book, in the movie he just had three and my personal opinion he looked like a human pincushion. And Boromir WOULD be pale if he died. I mean, like, have any of you seen The Patriot? Like Thomas when he died was all pale, it's what happens when you lose a lot of blood. What do ya'll mean by not as Tolkien wrote? I am not trying to provoke anger, I am just curious.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - April 30, 2002 @ 5:07 PM
personaly, I Love the background, it's really realistic!
but Aragorn looks old,I mean, how old is Arogorn exactly? and Boromir looks Evil...
it's kinda odd
Comment by willow_moon - April 30, 2002 @ 5:52 PM - Rated a 3
personaly, I Love the background, it's really realistic!
but Aragorn looks old,I mean, how old is Arogorn exactly? and Boromir looks Evil...
it's kinda odd
Comment by willow_moon - April 30, 2002 @ 5:52 PM - Rated a 3
But Boromir looks a bit odd.
Comment by snowlass - April 30, 2002 @ 9:00 PM - Rated a 3
But Boromir looks a bit odd.
Comment by snowlass - April 30, 2002 @ 9:00 PM - Rated a 3
I agree that Boromir doesn't look right. He had been hit by numerous arrows in the book, and 3 in the movie. It looks numerous in the picture to me. I counted 7, and probably some had fallen off. Well, people define "numerous" differently. Overall, I like Nasmith's arts. I've seen several of them.
Comment by fishy071 - May 1, 2002 @ 2:04 AM - Rated a 4
I agree that Boromir doesn't look right. He had been hit by numerous arrows in the book, and 3 in the movie. It looks numerous in the picture to me. I counted 7, and probably some had fallen off. Well, people define "numerous" differently. Overall, I like Nasmith's arts. I've seen several of them.
Comment by fishy071 - May 1, 2002 @ 2:04 AM - Rated a 4
As for the Boromir bit, I think he looks noble, just like he's been dying of some disease of a time. If you take his face, imagine it colored in and fleshened out, it works.
Aragorn is a descendent of Numenor, so his life is much longer than that of normal men. But he's 87 years old at the time of the book, and it's not hard to believe that he's at the point where he might be going a little grey. Some people start going grey in their 20's.
Comment by §ol - May 1, 2002 @ 2:57 AM - Rated a 4
As for the Boromir bit, I think he looks noble, just like he's been dying of some disease of a time. If you take his face, imagine it colored in and fleshened out, it works.
Aragorn is a descendent of Numenor, so his life is much longer than that of normal men. But he's 87 years old at the time of the book, and it's not hard to believe that he's at the point where he might be going a little grey. Some people start going grey in their 20's.
Comment by §ol - May 1, 2002 @ 2:57 AM - Rated a 4
(I know it's probably because he's dying but it's something else) but it's nice anyway
Comment by Anariel - May 1, 2002 @ 5:03 AM - Rated a 3
(I know it's probably because he's dying but it's something else) but it's nice anyway
Comment by Anariel - May 1, 2002 @ 5:03 AM - Rated a 3
it's very good. Ted Nasmith and John Howe are my favourite Tolkien illustrators, and I'm angry when I see that a Legolas pic is much higher rated then Ted Nasmith's painting
Comment by myama - May 1, 2002 @ 5:24 AM - Rated a 5
it's very good. Ted Nasmith and John Howe are my favourite Tolkien illustrators, and I'm angry when I see that a Legolas pic is much higher rated then Ted Nasmith's painting
Comment by myama - May 1, 2002 @ 5:24 AM - Rated a 5
You can really feel the emotion on the picture. I'm starting to cry now
Comment by habitforminghobbit - May 1, 2002 @ 6:19 AM - Rated a 5
You can really feel the emotion on the picture. I'm starting to cry now
Comment by habitforminghobbit - May 1, 2002 @ 6:19 AM - Rated a 5
Hay varios detalles de gran importancia que restan credibilidad a esta representación de Aragorn y Boromir.
Para empezar, en el libro Aragorn es descrito con el pelo más largo y con ropa oscura y gastada por su uso continuado. Esto es distinto en la imágen de Ted Nasmith.
Además, Boromir parece excesivamente viejo y pálido en el dibujo, sin dar ese aspecto de granadeza, nobleza y fortaleza que siempre tuvo.
Independientemente de esto, yo personalmente no me imaginaba a estos dos personajes así, ni por asomo.
(Otra cosilla: ¿Desde cuando los orcos son de color verde-planta?)
De todos modos, es un buen trabajo y en cierto modo transmite la sensación de el libro. ¡Sigue currándotelo, Ted, pero si fueses más fiel a los escritos de Tolkien estaría mucho mejor!
Comment by TheMarquis - May 1, 2002 @ 6:42 AM - Rated a 2
Hay varios detalles de gran importancia que restan credibilidad a esta representación de Aragorn y Boromir.
Para empezar, en el libro Aragorn es descrito con el pelo más largo y con ropa oscura y gastada por su uso continuado. Esto es distinto en la imágen de Ted Nasmith.
Además, Boromir parece excesivamente viejo y pálido en el dibujo, sin dar ese aspecto de granadeza, nobleza y fortaleza que siempre tuvo.
Independientemente de esto, yo personalmente no me imaginaba a estos dos personajes así, ni por asomo.
(Otra cosilla: ¿Desde cuando los orcos son de color verde-planta?)
De todos modos, es un buen trabajo y en cierto modo transmite la sensación de el libro. ¡Sigue currándotelo, Ted, pero si fueses más fiel a los escritos de Tolkien estaría mucho mejor!
Comment by TheMarquis - May 1, 2002 @ 6:42 AM - Rated a 2
87 yrs old?
wow...I didn't remember
thanx!
Comment by willow_moon - May 1, 2002 @ 3:04 PM
87 yrs old?
wow...I didn't remember
thanx!
Comment by willow_moon - May 1, 2002 @ 3:04 PM
No offense, I just don't know that language (Spanish is my guess :)) - yet. Could someone that DOES know what he said please translate?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 3:39 PM
No offense, I just don't know that language (Spanish is my guess :)) - yet. Could someone that DOES know what he said please translate?
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 3:39 PM
Ok he didnt look like a human pin cushion. And no he wouldn't be pale because he had pride so even after he died he looked great. I mean he's warrior for god's sake. I really dont think he's 87. I thought he was like 60.
Comment by eowyn_rocks - May 1, 2002 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 3
Ok he didnt look like a human pin cushion. And no he wouldn't be pale because he had pride so even after he died he looked great. I mean he's warrior for god's sake. I really dont think he's 87. I thought he was like 60.
Comment by eowyn_rocks - May 1, 2002 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 3
I love the detail all around them, it's stunning, but.... the actual boromir and aragorn. Ugh. not to be mean, it's an awesome job its just...... PoOr ArWeN! Would you want a face like that kissing you? I didn't think so... :P that's all. Wonderful detail around thou!
Comment by LovelyArwenDrummer - May 1, 2002 @ 6:28 PM - Rated a 4
I love the detail all around them, it's stunning, but.... the actual boromir and aragorn. Ugh. not to be mean, it's an awesome job its just...... PoOr ArWeN! Would you want a face like that kissing you? I didn't think so... :P that's all. Wonderful detail around thou!
Comment by LovelyArwenDrummer - May 1, 2002 @ 6:28 PM - Rated a 4
I like it... Ted Nasmith is awesome
I think Boromir looks a little old, but other than that...
Comment by luthienelflover - May 1, 2002 @ 6:38 PM - Rated a 4
I like it... Ted Nasmith is awesome
I think Boromir looks a little old, but other than that...
Comment by luthienelflover - May 1, 2002 @ 6:38 PM - Rated a 4
Ok sorreeee. I I wasnt like making an attack on the movie, I love the movie (tho I don't really like Boromir to begin with) and have seen it ten times. But don't tell me to shut up. Like I said, I wasn't trying to provoke anger. But please don't push me to say whats in my head, I just got back from a five hour rehearsal, with a show opening in a week and I don't need any crap. I am going to take your advice and shut up now before I let my anger get the best of me. But what does pride have to do with the physical side of peeps that makes them get pale when their dead. Blood Loss Hello!!!!!!!! And the blood of Numenor didn't run true in him to begin with, he was almost one of lesser men. And she said ARAGORN was 87, not Boromir. I don't remember Boromir's age, but I know he's below fifty, cause he's younger than Frodo.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 6:48 PM
Ok sorreeee. I I wasnt like making an attack on the movie, I love the movie (tho I don't really like Boromir to begin with) and have seen it ten times. But don't tell me to shut up. Like I said, I wasn't trying to provoke anger. But please don't push me to say whats in my head, I just got back from a five hour rehearsal, with a show opening in a week and I don't need any crap. I am going to take your advice and shut up now before I let my anger get the best of me. But what does pride have to do with the physical side of peeps that makes them get pale when their dead. Blood Loss Hello!!!!!!!! And the blood of Numenor didn't run true in him to begin with, he was almost one of lesser men. And she said ARAGORN was 87, not Boromir. I don't remember Boromir's age, but I know he's below fifty, cause he's younger than Frodo.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 6:48 PM
no offense.
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 8:12 PM
no offense.
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 1, 2002 @ 8:12 PM
I feel better now, I didn't say I was mad or angry, just incrediabally stressed. People shouldn't push performers in May, too much pressure as it is.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 8:26 PM
I feel better now, I didn't say I was mad or angry, just incrediabally stressed. People shouldn't push performers in May, too much pressure as it is.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 1, 2002 @ 8:26 PM
I agree, LovelyArwenDrummer. Aragorn's face looks a little too red, but the picture portrays emotion, as you mentioned, habitforminghobbit. Nasmith is a good artist and did a good job.
Eowyn_rocks, gol and Daughterofpaladin, according to my calculations from the timeline in the Appendix, Aragorn is either 87or 88, and Boromir is either 40 or 41. I understand that performance is a lot of stress, and when you said "human pincushion," I knew you didn't mean it literally. You were probably just trying to say that Boromir was pierced by many arrows.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:03 AM
I agree, LovelyArwenDrummer. Aragorn's face looks a little too red, but the picture portrays emotion, as you mentioned, habitforminghobbit. Nasmith is a good artist and did a good job.
Eowyn_rocks, gol and Daughterofpaladin, according to my calculations from the timeline in the Appendix, Aragorn is either 87or 88, and Boromir is either 40 or 41. I understand that performance is a lot of stress, and when you said "human pincushion," I knew you didn't mean it literally. You were probably just trying to say that Boromir was pierced by many arrows.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:03 AM
TheMarquis' comments are in Spanish, and the title roughly translates to "I don't think all is right." I am taking Spanish right now, and still don't know very much, so I can't quite translate the comments. However, I'll give you the general idea.
The Marquis is saying that there are traits in the picture that do not represent Aragorn and Boromir. In the book, Aragorn had longer hair, and Boromir had a more grand, noble, and strong look. The orcs also appear green. This picture is Nasmith's interpretation, and does not represent what he imagined. He likes Tolkien's descriptions better.
I hope I'm right. Anyone who knows Spanish is free to correct me.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:14 AM
TheMarquis' comments are in Spanish, and the title roughly translates to "I don't think all is right." I am taking Spanish right now, and still don't know very much, so I can't quite translate the comments. However, I'll give you the general idea.
The Marquis is saying that there are traits in the picture that do not represent Aragorn and Boromir. In the book, Aragorn had longer hair, and Boromir had a more grand, noble, and strong look. The orcs also appear green. This picture is Nasmith's interpretation, and does not represent what he imagined. He likes Tolkien's descriptions better.
I hope I'm right. Anyone who knows Spanish is free to correct me.
Comment by fishy071 - May 2, 2002 @ 2:14 AM
I agree with Frogbart..
Ted Nasmith i the greatest Tolkien Ilustrater
Comment by Palladiniel - May 2, 2002 @ 10:17 AM - Rated a 5
I agree with Frogbart..
Ted Nasmith i the greatest Tolkien Ilustrater
Comment by Palladiniel - May 2, 2002 @ 10:17 AM - Rated a 5
As allways!!!! He can make a good interpretation of Tolkien's stories
Comment by fasol - May 2, 2002 @ 3:22 PM - Rated a 5
As allways!!!! He can make a good interpretation of Tolkien's stories
Comment by fasol - May 2, 2002 @ 3:22 PM - Rated a 5
I like the way Boromir's mant circles around his thigh...very Victorian maiden in polite disarray, with a jutted-out chin.
I feel that the figures of Aragorn and Boromir aren't noble enough, although the background is great.
Comment by Green-elf - May 2, 2002 @ 7:31 PM - Rated a 2
I like the way Boromir's mant circles around his thigh...very Victorian maiden in polite disarray, with a jutted-out chin.
I feel that the figures of Aragorn and Boromir aren't noble enough, although the background is great.
Comment by Green-elf - May 2, 2002 @ 7:31 PM - Rated a 2
First a little clarification
1. Boromir has brown hair in the book. So the colour is right.
2. Boromir got hit by many more arrows than just 3. I kind of like it that way, as it makes him seem more heroic.
3. I don't know the exact age of Aragorn but it's somewhere around the 90. Remember he is a numenorean. They live longer.
I really like the background very much. It's almost as good as Alan Lee. I also like the orcs surrounding Boromir. They are truly ugly in a beautiful way..hehe!
But I must agree with the majority that Aragorn and Boromir look not quite like I had imagined them. I can't tell what it is but I don't like it.
Comment by Quick-Silver - May 3, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 3
First a little clarification
1. Boromir has brown hair in the book. So the colour is right.
2. Boromir got hit by many more arrows than just 3. I kind of like it that way, as it makes him seem more heroic.
3. I don't know the exact age of Aragorn but it's somewhere around the 90. Remember he is a numenorean. They live longer.
I really like the background very much. It's almost as good as Alan Lee. I also like the orcs surrounding Boromir. They are truly ugly in a beautiful way..hehe!
But I must agree with the majority that Aragorn and Boromir look not quite like I had imagined them. I can't tell what it is but I don't like it.
Comment by Quick-Silver - May 3, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 3
He has really captured the sadness of the moment in this pic with the orcs and the Horn that's split in two...
Comment by TuorSonOfHuor - May 3, 2002 @ 9:01 AM - Rated a 5
He has really captured the sadness of the moment in this pic with the orcs and the Horn that's split in two...
Comment by TuorSonOfHuor - May 3, 2002 @ 9:01 AM - Rated a 5
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:41 AM - Rated a 4
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:41 AM - Rated a 4
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:43 AM
Are you people who say it only shows 3 arrows in this picture retarded or something? I don't know if its just me but I see 2 arrows near Boromir's neck, two in his stomach, and 3 on his legs. What is so hard about that?
Comment by bmxviper47 - May 3, 2002 @ 10:43 AM
Yep, this is a nice pic, everything looks right, except for Aragorns hair, it seems to be a little short to me.
And yep, Aragorn is 87 years old, but because he is to be 209 years old, his face doesn`t looks to old to me. He is very close to becoming 89, that is on march the 1st, and the event of the picture takes place on february 26th. In fact, if you want to know, Aragorn spends his birthday meeting Gandalf The White and horseriding with him. I can`t wich for a better one!
A 4
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 3, 2002 @ 10:47 AM - Rated a 4
Yep, this is a nice pic, everything looks right, except for Aragorns hair, it seems to be a little short to me.
And yep, Aragorn is 87 years old, but because he is to be 209 years old, his face doesn`t looks to old to me. He is very close to becoming 89, that is on march the 1st, and the event of the picture takes place on february 26th. In fact, if you want to know, Aragorn spends his birthday meeting Gandalf The White and horseriding with him. I can`t wich for a better one!
A 4
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 3, 2002 @ 10:47 AM - Rated a 4
I think they were talking about the movie. In the movie Boromir gets three arrows in him, and they were so big that IN MY OPINION NOT, SAYING THAT IT WAS HORRIBLE OR INSULTING THE MOVIE they made him look like a human pincushion. Once more, not trying to provoke anger.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 3, 2002 @ 12:57 PM
I think they were talking about the movie. In the movie Boromir gets three arrows in him, and they were so big that IN MY OPINION NOT, SAYING THAT IT WAS HORRIBLE OR INSULTING THE MOVIE they made him look like a human pincushion. Once more, not trying to provoke anger.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 3, 2002 @ 12:57 PM
The purpose of a piece of art is to evoke a reaction or feeling. I think Nasmith is trying to capture the feeling of love and respect for a fallen comrade who had paid the ultimate price-his life. The details that help create the feeling are included:the cloven horn, many dead surrounding Boromir,numerous arrows in his body and the look on Aragorn's face.
Details such as length of hair,color of skin and the like can be more open to the artist's intrepretation. Of course the characters won't look like we've imagined them, that picture is in our mind, not the artist's. Nasmith has done a masterful job conveying the feelings of Aragorn for Boromir. Tolkien would have been very pleased.
Comment by melianndoriath - May 3, 2002 @ 4:25 PM - Rated a 5
The purpose of a piece of art is to evoke a reaction or feeling. I think Nasmith is trying to capture the feeling of love and respect for a fallen comrade who had paid the ultimate price-his life. The details that help create the feeling are included:the cloven horn, many dead surrounding Boromir,numerous arrows in his body and the look on Aragorn's face.
Details such as length of hair,color of skin and the like can be more open to the artist's intrepretation. Of course the characters won't look like we've imagined them, that picture is in our mind, not the artist's. Nasmith has done a masterful job conveying the feelings of Aragorn for Boromir. Tolkien would have been very pleased.
Comment by melianndoriath - May 3, 2002 @ 4:25 PM - Rated a 5
tears are forming in my eyes...
but great pic nonetheless.
Comment by Thinuialiel - May 3, 2002 @ 5:25 PM - Rated a 4
tears are forming in my eyes...
but great pic nonetheless.
Comment by Thinuialiel - May 3, 2002 @ 5:25 PM - Rated a 4
This is insanely good! I love the realism. It's a vivid painting of what happened.
IMHO, much better than Peter Jackson's portrayl.
Comment by Mædhros - May 3, 2002 @ 10:10 PM - Rated a 5
This is insanely good! I love the realism. It's a vivid painting of what happened.
IMHO, much better than Peter Jackson's portrayl.
Comment by Mædhros - May 3, 2002 @ 10:10 PM - Rated a 5
.... Ted Nasmith's works are good, but there seems to be something in _nearly_ all of them that doesn't please my eye, so to say. I don't know what it is. Or maybe it's the green-eyed monster of jealousy.
Comment by rithrin*cahthar - May 4, 2002 @ 12:38 AM - Rated a 3
.... Ted Nasmith's works are good, but there seems to be something in _nearly_ all of them that doesn't please my eye, so to say. I don't know what it is. Or maybe it's the green-eyed monster of jealousy.
Comment by rithrin*cahthar - May 4, 2002 @ 12:38 AM - Rated a 3
I submit that after reading all of YOUR sorry, frustrating and annoying comments, I have none. Have a nice day everyone!
Comment by Istari_girl - May 4, 2002 @ 6:27 PM
I submit that after reading all of YOUR sorry, frustrating and annoying comments, I have none. Have a nice day everyone!
Comment by Istari_girl - May 4, 2002 @ 6:27 PM
Though I mentioned that the characters didn't look right, I wasn't disappointed by the picture. Melianndoriath, you are right. Nasmith is trying to capture the event, moment, and mood of the scene. Every artist has different interpretations, and this is Nasmith's interpretation of the characters.
Comment by fishy071 - May 5, 2002 @ 12:47 AM
Though I mentioned that the characters didn't look right, I wasn't disappointed by the picture. Melianndoriath, you are right. Nasmith is trying to capture the event, moment, and mood of the scene. Every artist has different interpretations, and this is Nasmith's interpretation of the characters.
Comment by fishy071 - May 5, 2002 @ 12:47 AM
i dont like this picture! wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs? i dont like the way they drew Boromir's face- it looks dead, and is realistic, but... his chin sticks out so far and that bothers me... sorry, just my opinion.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:33 AM - Rated a 2
i dont like this picture! wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs? i dont like the way they drew Boromir's face- it looks dead, and is realistic, but... his chin sticks out so far and that bothers me... sorry, just my opinion.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:33 AM - Rated a 2
Soul.pud- i agree. neither of the guys look right. they're not wearing any protctive armor, and neither of the guys look right.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:34 AM
Soul.pud- i agree. neither of the guys look right. they're not wearing any protctive armor, and neither of the guys look right.
Comment by *Lady_Greenleaf - May 5, 2002 @ 7:34 AM
but boromir looks kinda screwy- and this isnt a messageboard!!! If you want to have a conversation, use the existing messageboard! This is for comments, not conversations.
:p whoa there, turbo...
Comment by lalatiel - May 5, 2002 @ 8:08 AM - Rated a 4
but boromir looks kinda screwy- and this isnt a messageboard!!! If you want to have a conversation, use the existing messageboard! This is for comments, not conversations.
:p whoa there, turbo...
Comment by lalatiel - May 5, 2002 @ 8:08 AM - Rated a 4
Nasmith did such a good job- catching Boromir in the throes of death, the blood falling from his body, Aragorn kissing him godbye, in a sense. It's just how i pictured it. And, I've seen this comment around- what about protective armor? If you're going on a very long journey, and stealth is your biggest problem, you aren't about to go clanking around in a 200 pound suit of metal armor. Leather wasn't even good enough! But, as they say, each to his own... :)
Comment by *Silvertears* - May 5, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 5
Nasmith did such a good job- catching Boromir in the throes of death, the blood falling from his body, Aragorn kissing him godbye, in a sense. It's just how i pictured it. And, I've seen this comment around- what about protective armor? If you're going on a very long journey, and stealth is your biggest problem, you aren't about to go clanking around in a 200 pound suit of metal armor. Leather wasn't even good enough! But, as they say, each to his own... :)
Comment by *Silvertears* - May 5, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 5
the drawing itself is good,but Agree with practicly everyone here...the bad and the good stuff
everyone is practicly dissing each other also......
crazy!
chow~
Comment by Spiritwhisper - May 5, 2002 @ 10:25 AM - Rated a 4
the drawing itself is good,but Agree with practicly everyone here...the bad and the good stuff
everyone is practicly dissing each other also......
crazy!
chow~
Comment by Spiritwhisper - May 5, 2002 @ 10:25 AM - Rated a 4
I think Nasmith should stick to illustrating landscape, he does a wonderful job with it. In the picture, Boromir has the profile of Quasimodo in the Hunchback of Notre Dame. His nose and forehead and eyes should be farther back to give him a more noble look. If Aragorn lives to be 209, and he is now 87/88, then shouldn't he look something like a late thirties or early forties kind of person? Here he looks fifties/sixties. I also think there is not enough blood on the ground. It looks too clean for there to have just been a bloody battle.
Comment by x_evenstar_x - May 5, 2002 @ 11:24 AM - Rated a 3
I think Nasmith should stick to illustrating landscape, he does a wonderful job with it. In the picture, Boromir has the profile of Quasimodo in the Hunchback of Notre Dame. His nose and forehead and eyes should be farther back to give him a more noble look. If Aragorn lives to be 209, and he is now 87/88, then shouldn't he look something like a late thirties or early forties kind of person? Here he looks fifties/sixties. I also think there is not enough blood on the ground. It looks too clean for there to have just been a bloody battle.
Comment by x_evenstar_x - May 5, 2002 @ 11:24 AM - Rated a 3
Excellent illustration, it?s very close from the way Tolkien describes the characters. The only thing wrong with this scene is the orcs blood, wich I suppose should be black, not red.
Boromir is too pale? Well, that happens when you?re dying and lost too much blood. Aragorn is not as handsome as in the movie? Tolkien ALWAYS described him as an UGLY man, marked by time and his life as a ranger. The gray stripes in his hair are RIGHT, like Frodo notices the first time he met him. About the lenght of his hair, I don?t remember if it?s mentioned anytime in the books, so noone can say it?s wrong or right.
Comment by arquimax - May 5, 2002 @ 1:41 PM - Rated a 5
Excellent illustration, it?s very close from the way Tolkien describes the characters. The only thing wrong with this scene is the orcs blood, wich I suppose should be black, not red.
Boromir is too pale? Well, that happens when you?re dying and lost too much blood. Aragorn is not as handsome as in the movie? Tolkien ALWAYS described him as an UGLY man, marked by time and his life as a ranger. The gray stripes in his hair are RIGHT, like Frodo notices the first time he met him. About the lenght of his hair, I don?t remember if it?s mentioned anytime in the books, so noone can say it?s wrong or right.
Comment by arquimax - May 5, 2002 @ 1:41 PM - Rated a 5
I am afraid that I must, respectfuly, dissagree. I think that it is great that people can come to this sight and actually discuss poetry and art. Yes, comments on the art are good, but the conversation is fascinating and educating. I enjoy reading the conversations and emotions that are evoked by the art and books.
Anyways, I love the art, it is excelent, but, it is not my image of Boromir's death scene. Ted is a really good artist, I love his backgrounds but it just isn't right.
Comment by DarkQueen - May 6, 2002 @ 3:42 PM - Rated a 3
I am afraid that I must, respectfuly, dissagree. I think that it is great that people can come to this sight and actually discuss poetry and art. Yes, comments on the art are good, but the conversation is fascinating and educating. I enjoy reading the conversations and emotions that are evoked by the art and books.
Anyways, I love the art, it is excelent, but, it is not my image of Boromir's death scene. Ted is a really good artist, I love his backgrounds but it just isn't right.
Comment by DarkQueen - May 6, 2002 @ 3:42 PM - Rated a 3
Amen sister! I hate it when people are like, this 'a message board. I like talking to people and check the comments all the time, just to see what people are saying. Anyway, I tried to use the messageboard and didn't get it. I think it's great that people actually have an opinion about stuff like this and are willing to back it up and talk about it with others.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 6, 2002 @ 8:34 PM
Amen sister! I hate it when people are like, this 'a message board. I like talking to people and check the comments all the time, just to see what people are saying. Anyway, I tried to use the messageboard and didn't get it. I think it's great that people actually have an opinion about stuff like this and are willing to back it up and talk about it with others.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 6, 2002 @ 8:34 PM
They're white.
Boromir's face looks like a great contender for a Mouth of Sauron pic.
Boromir's toes can be seen!
Why do the orcs have red blood? I thought they had black.
And daughterofpaladin: I agree, he should be kinda pale, he's dead, ya know? But if he were to be as pale as this pic suggests, then where the heck is his blood? I see that the leaves are stained with it, but that could be the orc's, and also the blood on the arrows isn't oozing all over his body. And if he did lose as much blood as he appears to have lost, then how could he have spoke to Aragorn before he died? Sorry, being kinda nitpicky.
I am afraid I must give this a 3.7. It is too exaggerated for a four.
Comment by Drareth - May 6, 2002 @ 11:22 PM - Rated a 3
They're white.
Boromir's face looks like a great contender for a Mouth of Sauron pic.
Boromir's toes can be seen!
Why do the orcs have red blood? I thought they had black.
And daughterofpaladin: I agree, he should be kinda pale, he's dead, ya know? But if he were to be as pale as this pic suggests, then where the heck is his blood? I see that the leaves are stained with it, but that could be the orc's, and also the blood on the arrows isn't oozing all over his body. And if he did lose as much blood as he appears to have lost, then how could he have spoke to Aragorn before he died? Sorry, being kinda nitpicky.
I am afraid I must give this a 3.7. It is too exaggerated for a four.
Comment by Drareth - May 6, 2002 @ 11:22 PM - Rated a 3
(For the translation.)
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 7, 2002 @ 8:01 AM
(For the translation.)
Comment by LOTRfreak02 - May 7, 2002 @ 8:01 AM
It's pants but the artist did put a lot of effort into it, and it's not my place to judge it. He is not that bad, it's just that they don't look right. Everybody appriciates different art, and this aint my cup of tea.
Comment by ElfOfMirkwood - May 7, 2002 @ 12:41 PM - Rated a 4
It's pants but the artist did put a lot of effort into it, and it's not my place to judge it. He is not that bad, it's just that they don't look right. Everybody appriciates different art, and this aint my cup of tea.
Comment by ElfOfMirkwood - May 7, 2002 @ 12:41 PM - Rated a 4
I'm torn here... on the one hand, Aragorn looks extremely fitting, and I don't think any artist's imagination would have done better, even if it might vary. On the other, Boromir is completely wrong, he looks like, um, i think his name was igor? or maybe it was uncle fester from the adams family? at any rate, having a monk-haircut is one thing, but he also looks like a scary evil person and not at all like a noble prince of Gondor.
Comment by Charis - May 7, 2002 @ 6:14 PM - Rated a 3
I'm torn here... on the one hand, Aragorn looks extremely fitting, and I don't think any artist's imagination would have done better, even if it might vary. On the other, Boromir is completely wrong, he looks like, um, i think his name was igor? or maybe it was uncle fester from the adams family? at any rate, having a monk-haircut is one thing, but he also looks like a scary evil person and not at all like a noble prince of Gondor.
Comment by Charis - May 7, 2002 @ 6:14 PM - Rated a 3
I just hav an evil, twisted miind, and I don't like Boromir anyway. Forgive me. DarkQueen, I don't entirely dissagree with you, but two comments: 1, I know you haven't read the books, so shutup(and you've only seen the movie 3 times) 2, stop using big words to confuse other, simple minded people! please excuse me if you're not the DarkQueen that I think you are(my older, cheating, boy-crazy, self-posessed sister!)
Comment by scream4frodo:) - May 8, 2002 @ 5:23 AM - Rated a 4
I just hav an evil, twisted miind, and I don't like Boromir anyway. Forgive me. DarkQueen, I don't entirely dissagree with you, but two comments: 1, I know you haven't read the books, so shutup(and you've only seen the movie 3 times) 2, stop using big words to confuse other, simple minded people! please excuse me if you're not the DarkQueen that I think you are(my older, cheating, boy-crazy, self-posessed sister!)
Comment by scream4frodo:) - May 8, 2002 @ 5:23 AM - Rated a 4
Aunque todas las muertes no sean buenas por que no morir por algo en que se cree. Nadie vive para toda la vida pero si que es para toda la vida una muerte heroica.
waterlife
Comment by WATERLIFE - May 8, 2002 @ 11:04 AM - Rated a 5
Aunque todas las muertes no sean buenas por que no morir por algo en que se cree. Nadie vive para toda la vida pero si que es para toda la vida una muerte heroica.
waterlife
Comment by WATERLIFE - May 8, 2002 @ 11:04 AM - Rated a 5
Waterlife is saying what? Hey fishy, come help me out here!
btw good pic.
Comment by PigglyWiggly - May 8, 2002 @ 1:15 PM - Rated a 5
Waterlife is saying what? Hey fishy, come help me out here!
btw good pic.
Comment by PigglyWiggly - May 8, 2002 @ 1:15 PM - Rated a 5
I can't believe ya'll!!! You are getting so caught up in technicalities! You've rated people better who have sent in a scetch on notebook paper that have no creativity and are simply compies of the movie characters!!!! Can you do this? Can you paint the portrait of what think Boromir should look like? Ted Nasmith has taken on a very hard responsiblity: painting scenes that people have already decided what they look like. Have have a few people I would like to point out specificaly:
fishy071 - "Aragorn's face looks a little too red" Well he's just stoped fighting hundreds of Orcs, I think he has a right to be a little flushed.
*Lady_Greenleaf - heh heh, boy have I got alot to say to you! "wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs?" Well, he's just been SHOT DOWN by HUNDREDS of Orcs, there is a big chance that some of them hit his legs. "Boromir's face-it looks dead...." Well yea! He's going to die in a few seconds. Poeple don't just stay all pink & rosie until they breathe their last and THEN look dead. "....and is realistic" Aw, gee. Your right. I'll tell him that his attempts to draw the cartoon weren't comical enough for the little kids.... WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!!!!!! I'm having doughts about wether you actually read the book, and if you did it's a wonder you didn't loose your stomach all the way through it. "they're not wearing any protective armor" I know this might blow your mind, but back then they had this 'stuff' called cain-mail and they wore that UNDER their clothes. Kind of like a kevlar vest- WHICH CAN'T BE SEEN. I'm sorry if i'm treating you like an idiot, but if you don't want to be treated that way then don't talk that way. "wuz wit" give me a break!
Drareth - "Boromir's toes can be seen!" What the heck is that? No they can't! Even if they could what's the matter with that?
And for the vast majority of you - "Wah, wah, wah. Boromir is too evil looking and he isn't noble enough." well boohoo! He's just come from being under the jealous control of the ring!!! He has his impurities about his soul. He resembles his father and look how evil he turned! "Ewww! Aragorn is ugly and old!" Aw, all the little adolescent girl hearts are broken. As arquimax said, Aragorn is supposed to be ugly. If anything ya'll should be ranting on how NOT ugly he is and how THAT differs from the book.
You people really should give up your self-centered veiws on how every peice of Tolkien art should look exactly how you imagined it in the book. Artists are allowed creative freedom. The important thing is the mood, as many more educated individuals have mentioned. That picture is so real and detailed you can imagine what Aragorn's boots feel like, or how cold and clamy Boromir's face is. You must remember the emotion during this time in the book. Boromir has just told Aragorn of the horrid deed he has done against Frodo, yet Aragorn, with his kind compassion, still honors him. This is Boromir's least glorified moment (internally) and Aragorn tells no one of it, exclaiming only on his bravery in the Orc battle. I can see all these emotions here.
Excuse my cruelty, the overwhelming majority of ignorant comments entreated my inner brutality to shine through.
Comment by talula - May 8, 2002 @ 2:03 PM - Rated a 5
I can't believe ya'll!!! You are getting so caught up in technicalities! You've rated people better who have sent in a scetch on notebook paper that have no creativity and are simply compies of the movie characters!!!! Can you do this? Can you paint the portrait of what think Boromir should look like? Ted Nasmith has taken on a very hard responsiblity: painting scenes that people have already decided what they look like. Have have a few people I would like to point out specificaly:
fishy071 - "Aragorn's face looks a little too red" Well he's just stoped fighting hundreds of Orcs, I think he has a right to be a little flushed.
*Lady_Greenleaf - heh heh, boy have I got alot to say to you! "wuz wit all the arrows coming out of his legs?" Well, he's just been SHOT DOWN by HUNDREDS of Orcs, there is a big chance that some of them hit his legs. "Boromir's face-it looks dead...." Well yea! He's going to die in a few seconds. Poeple don't just stay all pink & rosie until they breathe their last and THEN look dead. "....and is realistic" Aw, gee. Your right. I'll tell him that his attempts to draw the cartoon weren't comical enough for the little kids.... WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!!!!!! I'm having doughts about wether you actually read the book, and if you did it's a wonder you didn't loose your stomach all the way through it. "they're not wearing any protective armor" I know this might blow your mind, but back then they had this 'stuff' called cain-mail and they wore that UNDER their clothes. Kind of like a kevlar vest- WHICH CAN'T BE SEEN. I'm sorry if i'm treating you like an idiot, but if you don't want to be treated that way then don't talk that way. "wuz wit" give me a break!
Drareth - "Boromir's toes can be seen!" What the heck is that? No they can't! Even if they could what's the matter with that?
And for the vast majority of you - "Wah, wah, wah. Boromir is too evil looking and he isn't noble enough." well boohoo! He's just come from being under the jealous control of the ring!!! He has his impurities about his soul. He resembles his father and look how evil he turned! "Ewww! Aragorn is ugly and old!" Aw, all the little adolescent girl hearts are broken. As arquimax said, Aragorn is supposed to be ugly. If anything ya'll should be ranting on how NOT ugly he is and how THAT differs from the book.
You people really should give up your self-centered veiws on how every peice of Tolkien art should look exactly how you imagined it in the book. Artists are allowed creative freedom. The important thing is the mood, as many more educated individuals have mentioned. That picture is so real and detailed you can imagine what Aragorn's boots feel like, or how cold and clamy Boromir's face is. You must remember the emotion during this time in the book. Boromir has just told Aragorn of the horrid deed he has done against Frodo, yet Aragorn, with his kind compassion, still honors him. This is Boromir's least glorified moment (internally) and Aragorn tells no one of it, exclaiming only on his bravery in the Orc battle. I can see all these emotions here.
Excuse my cruelty, the overwhelming majority of ignorant comments entreated my inner brutality to shine through.
Comment by talula - May 8, 2002 @ 2:03 PM - Rated a 5
I do think the picture is original and meticulous.
However it is a bit too original. I do not rember reading about either Boromir or Aragorn looking so old or ugly. I'm not saying talula's comments are wrong, I just don't remember that.
Whatever happened to their beards? Aren't they supposed to have some?
The setting seems perfect.
Are the orcs supposed to look like they have nothing under the chain-mail?
There's no other living creature in the scene. Maybe even adding some insects would make it feel more real.
Sorry Talula, but it just doesn't FEEL real. It looks great as an art, but it doesn't portray the same feeling as the book, whether it be the details, the setting, mood, etc. there deffinitely is something wrong.
Comment by StarWarsD - May 8, 2002 @ 4:08 PM - Rated a 3
I do think the picture is original and meticulous.
However it is a bit too original. I do not rember reading about either Boromir or Aragorn looking so old or ugly. I'm not saying talula's comments are wrong, I just don't remember that.
Whatever happened to their beards? Aren't they supposed to have some?
The setting seems perfect.
Are the orcs supposed to look like they have nothing under the chain-mail?
There's no other living creature in the scene. Maybe even adding some insects would make it feel more real.
Sorry Talula, but it just doesn't FEEL real. It looks great as an art, but it doesn't portray the same feeling as the book, whether it be the details, the setting, mood, etc. there deffinitely is something wrong.
Comment by StarWarsD - May 8, 2002 @ 4:08 PM - Rated a 3
and talula, maybe you shouldnt go around screaming at people for their opninions. i respect yours, but maybe you should respect others'.
Comment by luthienelflover - May 8, 2002 @ 6:59 PM
and talula, maybe you shouldnt go around screaming at people for their opninions. i respect yours, but maybe you should respect others'.
Comment by luthienelflover - May 8, 2002 @ 6:59 PM
I agree with you, though each person is entitled to their own opinion. But I defenantly think that some people are extremely petty. One of the wonderful things about Tolkien is he is very a unselfish writer by leaving a lot to the reader's imagination. When some guy creates a different world, there are bound to be differences in opinions on it. Have any of us jumped inside Tolkien's head and seen how he pictured Aragorn? And better yet, if we could, would he let us? He would want to leave it up to the imagination, which is one of the brilliant things about him. He wants to see how each and every one of us interprets his work. If he wanted it one way, his books would either be six million pages long because of all the detailed description and no one would buy them, or he would never have published them.
I am sorry if I sound angry, but its eleven o'clock and I have just been at a five hour rehearsal for the fourth time this week and our show opens Friday, so I am a little stressed.
I am seriously about to faint, so I am gonna sign off now, if I never post again, I just died.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 8, 2002 @ 9:06 PM
I agree with you, though each person is entitled to their own opinion. But I defenantly think that some people are extremely petty. One of the wonderful things about Tolkien is he is very a unselfish writer by leaving a lot to the reader's imagination. When some guy creates a different world, there are bound to be differences in opinions on it. Have any of us jumped inside Tolkien's head and seen how he pictured Aragorn? And better yet, if we could, would he let us? He would want to leave it up to the imagination, which is one of the brilliant things about him. He wants to see how each and every one of us interprets his work. If he wanted it one way, his books would either be six million pages long because of all the detailed description and no one would buy them, or he would never have published them.
I am sorry if I sound angry, but its eleven o'clock and I have just been at a five hour rehearsal for the fourth time this week and our show opens Friday, so I am a little stressed.
I am seriously about to faint, so I am gonna sign off now, if I never post again, I just died.
Comment by daughterofpaladin - May 8, 2002 @ 9:06 PM
The artwork resembles something right out of a medieval manuscript. It reminds me of artwork monk scribes used to do in books.
Neat.
Comment by Valirion - May 8, 2002 @ 10:22 PM - Rated a 4
The artwork resembles something right out of a medieval manuscript. It reminds me of artwork monk scribes used to do in books.
Neat.
Comment by Valirion - May 8, 2002 @ 10:22 PM - Rated a 4
talula, if 'technicalities' were not in a piece of art, then we shall have abstract images and vague outlines. If a person is creating his/her first picture, then they need to be complimented on it, so that they can continue to make them. Once established as a 'full-time' artist, and they're pictures evolve more and more, they deserve more critisism, so that they know what to improve on. But why not do this when they start, you ask? Because if you did, then the person would get frusterated, thinking that he/she is not good enough at drawing. If you continue to praise the person, then they would grow very proud, too proud. You must also remember that some of these people don't go to universities and get master degrees in art, as I am sure Ted Nasmith and John Howe have. None of us are claiming to be better than the artist, but we are all entitled to our own opinion, as are you, but if you flame people about they're lack of reading the LOTR books, then you are probably shutting someone's door to Tolkien. You were once new to LOTR, correct? How would you feel if someone yelled at you for not reading the books? Boromir is NOT, repeat NOT EVIL. Just because the ring tainted his mind does not mean that he is evil. ***BOOK SPOILER*** Frodo was corrupted by the ring, and nobody lay claims that he's evil. The reasons why Boromir was the first to fall is mainly because of process of elimination. He was the 'weakest' of the Fellowship, though Pippin and Merry were weaker in physical and mental strength, they knew little of the ring, and the ring was not trying to currupt them. Boromir's worst trait was his pride, and the ring knew this, and exploited it. Whoa...can you imagine what would happen if Pippin took the ring? He'd force all living persons to bring him food and 'pints' I bet. Anyways, back to subject, I personally believe that Ted Nasmith's mental image of Boromir was different to the one he painted, because it is incredibly hard to correct a mistake on a painting. However, if my theory is true, then he doesn't get any sympathy points for this, because what happened, has happened. 99% of the time, you cannot convince a person that has a mental image of something, that your mental image is more realistic than your friend's. Think of it this way: if one person thinks that Sauron looks like a devil, then you cannot convince him/her that Sauron doesn't look that way. Of course there is no way to tell, considering the writing is (in a good way) so vague, it is up to the individual viewers to decide. Most of my rant should (hopefully) be giving you Tolkien's original view, and (again, hopefully) very little editorial comments. My heart did indeed melt as I looked at Boromir and Aragorn in the thumbnail, and for a few moments on the fullscreen view, but I had to pay attention to details, and that is why my score is average. But I do believe I shall raise it to above average, making it a 4, because it is a great work of art, and not every picture has touched me, albeit for a slightly short period of time. But it does NOT deserve a 5, for a 5 is perfection, the cream of the crop, the highest of the high. This is NOT perfect, and that is why I measure scores using decimals.
I hope I have kept my composure during this. I meant no offense, and only wanted to remind you to NEVER flame someone, even though your post was more teasing than flaming. I was tempted to flame you, but decided that that was a very, very dumb idea. I knew that I would get into a flame war with you, and if there's one thing I hate, it's a flame war. And besides, retaliation is always worse.
Daughterofpaladin, you did not sound angry at all. May I ask what the rehearsal was for? That is, if you are still alive....
And the toes thing! It's totally humor, and you can see what *kinda* looks like toes on the leg closest to you.
Comment by Drareth - May 8, 2002 @ 10:57 PM
talula, if 'technicalities' were not in a piece of art, then we shall have abstract images and vague outlines. If a person is creating his/her first picture, then they need to be complimented on it, so that they can continue to make them. Once established as a 'full-time' artist, and they're pictures evolve more and more, they deserve more critisism, so that they know what to improve on. But why not do this when they start, you ask? Because if you did, then the person would get frusterated, thinking that he/she is not good enough at drawing. If you continue to praise the person, then they would grow very proud, too proud. You must also remember that some of these people don't go to universities and get master degrees in art, as I am sure Ted Nasmith and John Howe have. None of us are claiming to be better than the artist, but we are all entitled to our own opinion, as are you, but if you flame people about they're lack of reading the LOTR books, then you are probably shutting someone's door to Tolkien. You were once new to LOTR, correct? How would you feel if someone yelled at you for not reading the books? Boromir is NOT, repeat NOT EVIL. Just because the ring tainted his mind does not mean that he is evil. ***BOOK SPOILER*** Frodo was corrupted by the ring, and nobody lay claims that he's evil. The reasons why Boromir was the first to fall is mainly because of process of elimination. He was the 'weakest' of the Fellowship, though Pippin and Merry were weaker in physical and mental strength, they knew little of the ring, and the ring was not trying to currupt them. Boromir's worst trait was his pride, and the ring knew this, and exploited it. Whoa...can you imagine what would happen if Pippin took the ring? He'd force all living persons to bring him food and 'pints' I bet. Anyways, back to subject, I personally believe that Ted Nasmith's mental image of Boromir was different to the one he painted, because it is incredibly hard to correct a mistake on a painting. However, if my theory is true, then he doesn't get any sympathy points for this, because what happened, has happened. 99% of the time, you cannot convince a person that has a mental image of something, that your mental image is more realistic than your friend's. Think of it this way: if one person thinks that Sauron looks like a devil, then you cannot convince him/her that Sauron doesn't look that way. Of course there is no way to tell, considering the writing is (in a good way) so vague, it is up to the individual viewers to decide. Most of my rant should (hopefully) be giving you Tolkien's original view, and (again, hopefully) very little editorial comments. My heart did indeed melt as I looked at Boromir and Aragorn in the thumbnail, and for a few moments on the fullscreen view, but I had to pay attention to details, and that is why my score is average. But I do believe I shall raise it to above average, making it a 4, because it is a great work of art, and not every picture has touched me, albeit for a slightly short period of time. But it does NOT deserve a 5, for a 5 is perfection, the cream of the crop, the highest of the high. This is NOT perfect, and that is why I measure scores using decimals.
I hope I have kept my composure during this. I meant no offense, and only wanted to remind you to NEVER flame someone, even though your post was more teasing than flaming. I was tempted to flame you, but decided that that was a very, very dumb idea. I knew that I would get into a flame war with you, and if there's one thing I hate, it's a flame war. And besides, retaliation is always worse.
Daughterofpaladin, you did not sound angry at all. May I ask what the rehearsal was for? That is, if you are still alive....
And the toes thing! It's totally humor, and you can see what *kinda* looks like toes on the leg closest to you.
Comment by Drareth - May 8, 2002 @ 10:57 PM
why are all the orcs piled up .i don't think they died like that .and if aragorn ,legolas or gimli placed them that way ,they must have kept boromir waiting....
anyway ,i like boromir's face : it shows agony ,pain ,struggle for life.....
aragorn is 87 years old ?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?
and they do look like truands...for guys who're noble ,i mean . even if aragorn is supposed to look weathered.....
and ,yes ,why aren't they wearing something more ...protective ?
despite those details , it's great
Comment by lucy.b - May 9, 2002 @ 9:03 AM - Rated a 4
why are all the orcs piled up .i don't think they died like that .and if aragorn ,legolas or gimli placed them that way ,they must have kept boromir waiting....
anyway ,i like boromir's face : it shows agony ,pain ,struggle for life.....
aragorn is 87 years old ?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?
and they do look like truands...for guys who're noble ,i mean . even if aragorn is supposed to look weathered.....
and ,yes ,why aren't they wearing something more ...protective ?
despite those details , it's great
Comment by lucy.b - May 9, 2002 @ 9:03 AM - Rated a 4
In TFotR it is clearly stated that the orc-bodies were piled up all around Boromir, because he fought that valiantly. And yes, Aragorn is 87. How many times do people have to say...hey, wait a minute, you are one of those people who have just found out about this page, and start commenting without even reading the book! Please go and play chess (or try to read the book for a change) and stop using the sites valuable space...!
You guys make me sick.
Ow yeah, next pic please!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 9, 2002 @ 10:51 AM
In TFotR it is clearly stated that the orc-bodies were piled up all around Boromir, because he fought that valiantly. And yes, Aragorn is 87. How many times do people have to say...hey, wait a minute, you are one of those people who have just found out about this page, and start commenting without even reading the book! Please go and play chess (or try to read the book for a change) and stop using the sites valuable space...!
You guys make me sick.
Ow yeah, next pic please!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - May 9, 2002 @ 10:51 AM
The commentors on this picture have run their course. Let's look at something else.
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 12:11 PM
The commentors on this picture have run their course. Let's look at something else.
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 12:11 PM
Hey ya'll, I'm usually not like that. It must be the PMS. I guess reading so many opinions over and over that I had such strong feelings against in the first place caused my violent outburst. I don't want a flame war either, and I don't like being flamed, just as everybody else doesn't. That was my whole reason for getting upset, Drareth, was because I felt that others weren't appreciating the fact that Tolkien wanted his character's portrail to be left up to the mind of the individual reader. I didn't mean to make it sound like Boromir was evil, I know he's not. What I meant was that his father went mad/turned evil (any way you want to look at it) and that he had his father's quick tempered tendancies. When I read the book, I thought Boromir was a "jerk." As though if he were to be my age and I met him, that's what I would think.
I guess when I look back at my post and read it myself in the tone that I was writting it in, it sounds funnier than what I'm sure everyone took it to be. I've been having a bad couple of days. I am teased non-stop, and what makes it worse is they're my FRIENDS that tease me. I've been coming home from school so mad lately. Not that that should excuse my behavior. I would invite you to look at my other post-n-such. I really don't usually bash people like that. I realise now I was being a hypocrite. Wanting people to accept others perspectives of Tolkien's writings, when I wasn't accepting others opinions. I agree, there are minor flaws like the orc blood not being blue and the men not having any facial hair, but one usually doesn't remember that from a first reading and Ted N. may have been more interested in the artistic aspects then the technicalities. Us poor "scholars" must hold on to the facts, being that we know more about them than art. I do think that adding more life, like insects, would overcrowd the picture and cause onlookers to focus on other aspects than the main happening. And Drareth, I would like to know out of curiosity what you meant about Boromir's toes being seen.
-Ashamed and Humbled
P.S. I just saw the fine print under the comment box:
"Please keep all your comments friendly. Do not engage in personal attacks or other comments that will be consrued as trolling."
Well....hmmmmm...
-The even more Ashamed and Humbled Troller
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:27 PM
Hey ya'll, I'm usually not like that. It must be the PMS. I guess reading so many opinions over and over that I had such strong feelings against in the first place caused my violent outburst. I don't want a flame war either, and I don't like being flamed, just as everybody else doesn't. That was my whole reason for getting upset, Drareth, was because I felt that others weren't appreciating the fact that Tolkien wanted his character's portrail to be left up to the mind of the individual reader. I didn't mean to make it sound like Boromir was evil, I know he's not. What I meant was that his father went mad/turned evil (any way you want to look at it) and that he had his father's quick tempered tendancies. When I read the book, I thought Boromir was a "jerk." As though if he were to be my age and I met him, that's what I would think.
I guess when I look back at my post and read it myself in the tone that I was writting it in, it sounds funnier than what I'm sure everyone took it to be. I've been having a bad couple of days. I am teased non-stop, and what makes it worse is they're my FRIENDS that tease me. I've been coming home from school so mad lately. Not that that should excuse my behavior. I would invite you to look at my other post-n-such. I really don't usually bash people like that. I realise now I was being a hypocrite. Wanting people to accept others perspectives of Tolkien's writings, when I wasn't accepting others opinions. I agree, there are minor flaws like the orc blood not being blue and the men not having any facial hair, but one usually doesn't remember that from a first reading and Ted N. may have been more interested in the artistic aspects then the technicalities. Us poor "scholars" must hold on to the facts, being that we know more about them than art. I do think that adding more life, like insects, would overcrowd the picture and cause onlookers to focus on other aspects than the main happening. And Drareth, I would like to know out of curiosity what you meant about Boromir's toes being seen.
-Ashamed and Humbled
P.S. I just saw the fine print under the comment box:
"Please keep all your comments friendly. Do not engage in personal attacks or other comments that will be consrued as trolling."
Well....hmmmmm...
-The even more Ashamed and Humbled Troller
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:27 PM
I know what the toe thing is know- lol!
-Ashamed, Humbled, and now Stupid
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:36 PM
I know what the toe thing is know- lol!
-Ashamed, Humbled, and now Stupid
Comment by talula - May 9, 2002 @ 1:36 PM
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of
Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair
and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith.
In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of
granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not
imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos
are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation
of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it
would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a
translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:55 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of
Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair
and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith.
In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of
granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not
imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos
are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation
of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it
would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a
translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:55 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of
Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair
and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith.
In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of
granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not
imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos
are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation
of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it
would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a
translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:56 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of
Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair
and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith.
In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of
granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not
imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos
are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation
of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it
would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a
translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:56 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of
Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair
and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith.
In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of
granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not
imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos
are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation
of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it
would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a
translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:57 PM - Rated a 5
“It absolutely does not seem guessed right to me.
There are several details of great importance that reduce credibility to this representation of
Aragorn and Boromir. In order to begin, in the Aragorn book it is described with the longest hair
and clothes dark and spent by its continued use. This is different in the image from Ted Nasmith.
In addition, Boromir excessively seems old and pale in the drawing, without giving that aspect of
granadeza, nobility and strength that always it had. Independently of this, I personally it did not
imagine me to these two personages thus, by no means. (Another cochair: Since when the orcos
are of color green-plants) Anyway, it is a good work and in certain way it transmits the sensation
of the book. It follows currándotelo, Ted, but if you were more faithful to writings of Tolkien it
would be far better!” - The Marquis
That is what The Marquis posted on 5-1-02. I went to a
translator site to translate it.
I personally think that it is great, and the detail is superb.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 2:57 PM - Rated a 5
I did not mean to post three times. My computer told me that it did not post. So I went to look and it was there three times.
Sorry,
Tom B.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 3:00 PM
I did not mean to post three times. My computer told me that it did not post. So I went to look and it was there three times.
Sorry,
Tom B.
Comment by TomOfTheForest - May 9, 2002 @ 3:00 PM
Your apology , sincere and heartfelt, is a rare thing in the cyberworld and in the real world.
I didn't find your original post offensive, (of course, I wasn't targeted specifically) just wrong headed. If artists have creative freedom then critics are free to critique. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but, of course, not all opinions are necessarily valid. I only take a critic seriously if he or she provides some kind of support or reason for the opinion. That being said, I can also understand gut reactions to any work of art and the often times the difficulty of not being able to provide a reason for the gut reaction.
Anyway, keep your opinions and ideas coming.
Alright, already, next picture PLEASE!
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 6:23 PM
Your apology , sincere and heartfelt, is a rare thing in the cyberworld and in the real world.
I didn't find your original post offensive, (of course, I wasn't targeted specifically) just wrong headed. If artists have creative freedom then critics are free to critique. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but, of course, not all opinions are necessarily valid. I only take a critic seriously if he or she provides some kind of support or reason for the opinion. That being said, I can also understand gut reactions to any work of art and the often times the difficulty of not being able to provide a reason for the gut reaction.
Anyway, keep your opinions and ideas coming.
Alright, already, next picture PLEASE!
Comment by Gastbona - May 9, 2002 @ 6:23 PM
Gastbona, you stole the words from my mouth. Talula, you are truly a kind person, you could have easily flamed me back (sorry, I sounded pretty high and mighty on my last [incredibly long] post) and never speak to me again. Instead, you apolagized, which is, as Gastbona has said, is extremely rare. And then you went the extra mile and told us why you were angry, and also stated that there was no excuse for your behavior. I must disagree, for you do need to release your anger somewhere. And this just added fuel to the fire, so why not take it out here? Just always remember (as if you'd forget) to explain your behavior.
Your humbleness is inspirational.
-Me
P.S. Don't insult yourself. You do not deserve it.
P.P.S. Whoever can even scan through my last post deserves a pat on the back. That was the longest thing I've ever typed.
P.S.P.S.P.S. I'm glad you noticed the toe thing!
-ME
Comment by Drareth - May 9, 2002 @ 11:00 PM
Gastbona, you stole the words from my mouth. Talula, you are truly a kind person, you could have easily flamed me back (sorry, I sounded pretty high and mighty on my last [incredibly long] post) and never speak to me again. Instead, you apolagized, which is, as Gastbona has said, is extremely rare. And then you went the extra mile and told us why you were angry, and also stated that there was no excuse for your behavior. I must disagree, for you do need to release your anger somewhere. And this just added fuel to the fire, so why not take it out here? Just always remember (as if you'd forget) to explain your behavior.
Your humbleness is inspirational.
-Me
P.S. Don't insult yourself. You do not deserve it.
P.P.S. Whoever can even scan through my last post deserves a pat on the back. That was the longest thing I've ever typed.
P.S.P.S.P.S. I'm glad you noticed the toe thing!
-ME
Comment by Drareth - May 9, 2002 @ 11:00 PM
Even though Aragorn and Boromir didn't get to know each other very much, it's sad to loose someone in the Fellowship who volunteered to help...I don't think that he wanted to die.
Comment by celadinebanks - July 19, 2002 @ 1:57 PM - Rated a 5
Even though Aragorn and Boromir didn't get to know each other very much, it's sad to loose someone in the Fellowship who volunteered to help...I don't think that he wanted to die.
Comment by celadinebanks - July 19, 2002 @ 1:57 PM - Rated a 5
Comment by gwilwering - August 16, 2002 @ 11:10 AM - Rated a 3
Comment by gwilwering - August 16, 2002 @ 11:10 AM - Rated a 3
Comment by lala_bloom - November 23, 2002 @ 6:50 PM
Comment by lala_bloom - November 23, 2002 @ 6:50 PM
How many arrows can that man take...i think it is weirdly drawn, but let me not start on that
Comment by LadyoftheMirkwoodElves144 - December 22, 2002 @ 12:40 AM
How many arrows can that man take...i think it is weirdly drawn, but let me not start on that
Comment by LadyoftheMirkwoodElves144 - December 22, 2002 @ 12:40 AM
Iv'e read the book OK?
I know it absolutley NOT, a gay situation but i sure looks like it..
Sorry to say it.
Comment by Elandirioné - March 18, 2003 @ 6:16 AM
Iv'e read the book OK?
I know it absolutley NOT, a gay situation but i sure looks like it..
Sorry to say it.
Comment by Elandirioné - March 18, 2003 @ 6:16 AM
...and Aragorn looks ok ( but where`s the beard) but Boromir stinks... Sorry to say that.
Comment by idril_celebrimbal - May 22, 2003 @ 9:47 AM - Rated a 3
...and Aragorn looks ok ( but where`s the beard) but Boromir stinks... Sorry to say that.
Comment by idril_celebrimbal - May 22, 2003 @ 9:47 AM - Rated a 3
I was being just as stupid and hypocritical as the worst of ya... I yelled at Talula for not accepting other's opinions and I certainly wasn't. Sorry
Comment by luthienelflover - June 1, 2003 @ 11:12 AM
I was being just as stupid and hypocritical as the worst of ya... I yelled at Talula for not accepting other's opinions and I certainly wasn't. Sorry
Comment by luthienelflover - June 1, 2003 @ 11:12 AM
What's the problem with Aragorn looking old? He IS old, even taking into account the longer lifespan of the Numenorean race of men. I got the impression from the book that he's supposed to be about 60!
Comment by Calendula - June 3, 2003 @ 3:30 PM - Rated a 3
What's the problem with Aragorn looking old? He IS old, even taking into account the longer lifespan of the Numenorean race of men. I got the impression from the book that he's supposed to be about 60!
Comment by Calendula - June 3, 2003 @ 3:30 PM - Rated a 3
beautiful and well executed painting
Comment by ladykris - January 2, 2004 @ 12:37 PM - Rated a 5
its good artwork, esp the background!!!
but the people just don't cut it, i mean they're great but that is so not aragorn...
you might do better drawing other things...
Comment by Aragorns_Princess - January 4, 2004 @ 12:44 PM - Rated a 4
Ok, the backround w dead orcs n stuff looks amazing but Aragorn and Boromir don't look like I imagined them.
Comment by Samwise93 - March 20, 2004 @ 5:27 PM - Rated a 4
A truly awesome picture. I first saw it a long while back as a child not long after I'd first had the Lord of the Rings read to me, so it hard for me to say whether the faces seem right to me or not, they would have influenced the images I formed upon subsequently reading the book.
I think that they both don''t look handsome and noble like some film star or plantagnent sculpture is part of the realism. Aragorn is described as careworn rugged wanderer, whilst lets face it Boromir is going to have signficant palour and generally look ill, he'd be in the advance stages of hypovolaemic shock, probably with signifcant internal bleeding. No one looks noble when their dying as a result of trauma, no matter how brave they might feel about it.
Incidently on the armour front, I seem to recall that when the Fellowship are being described at the outset of their journey it states that ony Gimili (and Frodo under his shirt of course) were wereing mail. The rest went without out of a desire to travel light.
Comment by JWLHunter - July 12, 2006 @ 6:18 AM - Rated a 4